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invernessguy
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alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:13pm » |
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ok, i last used my scorpio on friday afternoon. left it parked up as usual, and went away. am back now, and the alarm seems to have been going off on its own. my mrs managed to turn the horn off with the key fob, but indicators were still flashing till the battery died.
am back home now, and have a flat battery. went to jump start it, and guess what? the alarm goes off again. cant get it to stop at all. so now i have a car with a flat battery that i cant start, cos the alarm keeps going off.
urgent help will be appreciated, as i really need my car for work tomorrow... where do i start looking?
is it possible to disable the alarm, so i can use the car?
cheers,
donnie
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daven
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #1 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:22pm » |
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Some info here http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/alarmsys.htm
May be best to take the battery off - recharge it, re-fit and then try to re-start the car!
Also check the bonnet switch - usual cause of alarm going off for no reason!
Good luck
Daven
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #2 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:29pm » |
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ok thanks, i will try that.
if the alarm is still going off, is there a fuse or relay i can pull to disable the alarm, and stll allow the car to run?
while the alarm was going off, with jump leads attached, i was frantically pressing the remote buttons, and then i tried starting the car..
the car started.. does that indicate a fault, as it wasnt imobilised?
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #3 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:49pm » |
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Hi donnie .. the alarm is seperate from the PATS immobiliser ..and the far most likely reason for it going of is the bonnet switch < check it out > .. and yes you can pull the lead of the underbonnet horn .. cheers .....STN
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daven
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #4 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:50pm » |
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You could disable the horn - the link shows you how to do that.
It maybe the battery is dead or low voltage so the system keeps cutting in!
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invernessguy
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #5 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 5:53pm » |
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thanks guys, am away out to have a go, will post later
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #6 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:05pm » |
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hi there
check it's not one of the door switches. remember locking or unlocking with the key switches the alarm on and off 
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #7 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:30pm » |
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ok guys, update...
i disconnected the bonnet switch, and the horn (to save the sanity of both me and the neighbours!)
started car with jump leads
left car running for a while, INDICATORS WERE FLASHING FOR 5 MINS, THEN STOPPED.
took car for a run to recharge the battery
came back home, everything seemed ok
switched car off, and restarted, still ok
pulled key out, and battery warning light, and oil light are still illuminated.
car wont lock off the remote....
any further ideas??
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:36pm » |
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hi there
starting to sound like a relay/fusebox issue  try pulling out the relays one by one and giving them a wee spray with WD-40.
fingers crossed
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #9 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:38pm » |
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i thought that myself... and the first thing i thought of was the battery cover, but all seems dry in there, and car hasnt even seen rain for a week!
will dig out my trusty wd40, and have a go
is that the fusebox on the battery side? or the other one? or both ?
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #10 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:47pm » |
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hi there
i'd work my way through both of them. you know what the scorpio is like, everything is connected to everything else 
maybe even the fuses as well.
btw, have you taken the battery leads off? this would reset everything inc the radio, windows etc. worth a shot.
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ren
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #11 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:49pm » |
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Hi
Regards the remote
if you press the remote
x amount of times when
not in range of the sensor?
the remote goes into blank stage
and remote needs to be reprogramed
my question is and poss may be your
problem would the same thing happen
if the battery is flat an you keep pressing
the remote
Ren
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #12 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:50pm » |
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hi there
just thought of something.
try some WD-40 on the wiring loom connector 'things'...2 box things on the drivers wing, below ps bottle. you might have got a bit of damp in there. 
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #13 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:52pm » |
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not disconnected the battery, but it was completely dead, now charged up a bit with the run, no warning lights on when car was running, only when i pulled the key.
doesnt look like water in electrics, although im not rulling it out, it has been dry here for a week, and i would have thought there would have been some other symptoms, during the winter?
will go and disconnect the battery now, and see what happens, but looks like the ignition is on when i take the key out?
does the ignition switch fail often?
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #14 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 6:54pm » |
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thats possible ren, but more worried about ignition lights staying on when key not in ignition at the moment!
i will check the remote after i get the rest sorted, but thanks for reminding me of that, i think its 10 key presses, but im not sure
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #15 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 7:46pm » |
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right, im not getting anywhere.
took all fuses and relays out, gave everything a bath of wd40. disconnected the battery for a bit.
symptoms now are... car starts and runs ok, no more alarm problems, but whenever key removed from ignition, or put to off position, oil and battery lights light up, also front and rear heated window switches, and mode switch. i dont have full ignition on, ie electric windows lighting up, etc
any further ideas will be greatly appreciated. i need to find this fault tonight, if possible, and i know its asking a lot, to fault find a car you cant see, but i have every faith that together we can fix it!
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #16 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 10:52pm » |
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I'm still thinking it's a battery/low voltage prob, do your speedo/ tach pointers go a bit doolally when the ignition is turned on ?
What's the voltage reading across the terminals when the engine's off ? I'm told anything under 12volts means trouble.
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #17 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 11:12pm » |
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Try the cigar lighter in the front ashtray see if its shorting out.
Sounds daft but it does happen!
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #18 on: Mar 27th, 2005, 11:16pm » |
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Sorry its a bit late at night
but i think as mr floppy states
its a battery prob since going flat
it may have caused damage to a cell
which is now causing low voltage probs
which in turn is not allowing the system
to reset properley these cars are prone
to probs without full battery support
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Re: alarming problem, HELLLPPPP!!
« Reply #19 on: Mar 28th, 2005, 8:06am » |
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Quote:| but whenever key removed from ignition, or put to off position, oil and battery lights light up, also front and rear heated window switches, and mode switch. i dont have full ignition on, ie electric windows lighting up, etc |
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If the lights are coming on AFTER you have switched the ignition OFF then do as I state I know of at least four cases where this was the problem.
The cigar lighter is LIVE all the time ignition off or on!
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