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nic
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What a day and a half.
Right down to biz, ever since I swerved to avoid that kid(Wont be doing that again, easier to replace the bonet and screen) and hit the kerb been having bother.
Snapped a spring so changed that, but still getting a bang when I go over a bump.
Today replaced both shocks and springs at the front, both drop links and in case it was a pad rattling, put new discs and pads on.
Now the drivers tyre is tracked and I am off to get the tracking sorted on the way to work, but I went over a bump and the d**n thing banged like it did before.
This car is getting on my breasts, I know the front end will have to settle, but give me some ideas wher to look next.
£248 and the thing still makes the same d**n noise.
Right im off to have a whisky and a cigar cos that vein on my forehead is pulsing.
Bertie I need a d**n holiday.
help me out boys.
Nic
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Baz
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #1 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 12:18am » |
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Have you checked for loose exhaust, damaged mountings etc? or is the noise definately at the front?
By the way, I'm looking at changing the front springs and shocks as mine creak like a sleepers bed!! How much were yours to replace Nic?
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #2 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 12:32am » |
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Fornt Springs were £85 for the 2 , 1 ford shocker brand new eBay £15, other one at a factors £58.
Noise is definately at the front, looking at drivers side, but it caould travel.
Got my head done in
Nic
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #3 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 11:03am » |
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I know it's almost impossible to test for movement in suspension bushes but, what about the wishbone bushes ( very likely if you've had an argument with the kerb !) and track rod ends?
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #4 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 12:22pm » |
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Hi Nic .... remove your cross chassis brace at the gearbox tunnel < four bolts > temporarily ...and see if it does it after that ....regards ....STN
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #5 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 1:12pm » |
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what about those little anti roll bar bushes  my car used to knock over little bumps !but to look at the bushes you could not see that they were worn
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #6 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 4:12pm » |
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Also check the security of the steering rack . the sliohtest slackness can cause a knocking. even if its only a small amount on the nut. worth checking over with a torque wrench ( BIG SPANNER)
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #7 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 7:11pm » |
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on Apr 26th, 2005, 12:22pm, SaveTheNight wrote:| Hi Nic .... remove your cross chassis brace at the gearbox tunnel < four bolts > temporarily ...and see if it does it after that ....regards ....STN |
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You know what... I still haven't tried this on mine. I know, I said I'd try it months ago now, but laziness set kinda set in  
Mine knocks somewhere underneath (sounds like the exhaust to me. And it happens on 'medium bumpy' surfaces but only if I'm turning a bit to the right (with weight transfering to the left).
Last time I was under the car though, I did look at this bar, and tried to move the exhaust by hand (to replicate the knock). It didn't really work 
Must try again soon.
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #8 on: Apr 27th, 2005, 1:03am » |
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nic check the inner bushes on the lower track control arm as you may have bust 1 (probs the rear 1 )and it can rattle , you need to put it on ramps to test as it will lock up if you just jack the car up and use a big screwdriver or pry bar to see if you can get any movment
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #9 on: Apr 27th, 2005, 7:57pm » |
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Hi folks, My '98 2.3 saloon has had a clunking noise at the front for two years, it's gone through two MOT's and I've told the tester to pay particular attention to the suspension bits but nothing seems to be wrong. I had it over the pit to have a look for myself and it all seemed ok. Looking at those bushes and the cross member seem worth a try. I have noticed that it is worse when the weather is cold and it actually stops clunking in hot weather. Just one one of those Scorpio things perhaps? Gazz
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #10 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 8:21am » |
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Mines a 2.3 '98 and also has the knocky bit for the last two years and I also was supprised when the technician could not find something wrong. over a uneven surface I will get a slight knocking, I think its comming from the passenger side, i've spent alot of money trying to get rid of it.
2 wish bones, 2 near bushes, 2 Track rod ends, 2 Discs and pads (needed them).
Never failed a MOT yet! but I would rather fail it and be told fix that thingy there.
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #11 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 11:05am » |
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Hi guys,
Got to say that I had a very similar problem which I just couldn't identify. By chance I bought a set of anti-roll bar bushes off eBay and fitted them.... problem solved!! Very strange because both my garage owning friend and I had checked the bushes and couldn't see anything wrong with them. He said that he would have passed them in an MOT.
For the price of a set of bushes (not a lot I suggest) and about an hours work, got to be worth a try.
HTH
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #12 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 11:49am » |
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Since I bought my car over a year ago, I would get a squeeky moise from the front left of the car when going over ramps. Didn't happen when it was raining. SO come service time, I got the rear bushes changed at the front as these were believed to be causing the squeeking. Upon removal, it could easily be seen that they were shot. A few days later, I notice the squeeking has returned. Turned out that it was the anti-roll bar bushes that were causing the squeeking so got these changed and it has been perfect since.
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #13 on: Apr 29th, 2005, 2:52am » |
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It isnt a bad idea to periodically spray the anti roll bar bushes with a silicon lubricant,as well as preventing squeaking it prolongs their life.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 29th, 2005, 7:10am » |
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Sorry all, been on night shift, just finished then im back out there, this thing is doing my nut in.
i will have a look and try the suggestions then get back to you
Cheers
Nic
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 30th, 2005, 2:53pm » |
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Right, on my back again yesterday(Easy Baz) and its lookin front anti roll bar ish, that sort of area.
The noise is definately spring or something under tension as it is a twangy noise so thats where we are looking.
The bushes looked ok but i might have bent the bar when I have hit this kerb, so we will stick another one on and replace the bushes, at least I am runnig out of components to change.
Simon clear some space in the garage we have a busy week ahead 
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #16 on: Apr 30th, 2005, 3:23pm » |
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hi nic
wouldn't be the steering rack? it must have taken quite a bang on the kerb.
that being said, as pointed out earlier, the roll bar bushes make a hell of a racket when done.
as most people know, there is virtually no movement in any of the bushes on the scorpio. if you find even the slightest movement, then chances are it's done.
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 30th, 2005, 4:07pm » |
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I Might just whip it off anyway, easy enough job and give it a look, I think I have one somewhere as well.
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #18 on: May 1st, 2005, 12:55am » |
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btw has your promo party ended yet nice to be back
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Re: Right come on you lot.
« Reply #19 on: May 27th, 2005, 4:10pm » |
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 Hi Folks. My scorpio is now clunk free in the front suspension department. I changed the bushes on the anti- roll bar as suggested. £9.45 from main dealer, easy to change, it took about half an hour. Horrors! the clunk was worse than ever. I got hold of the link rods(I think that's what they're called) on each side and found that the one on the driver's side had some play in it, bingo! I bought a new one from a main dealer £45 00. A bit pricey but instantly available. I had good luck when I changed it, the old one came off easily after a squirt of WD40.
Then the road test; clunk free after two years and two MoT's. I'm off to Bonny Scotland in the morning in my lovely, quiet Scorpio. Cheers folks. Gazz
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