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Kjetil S
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Clutch doesn't work properly
« on: Oct 13th, 2005, 5:58pm » |
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I own a '95 Scorp 2.0 16v, which I love, but my clutch has suddenly stopped working properly. The problem came suddenly while driving, without any prior warning.
When I press the clutch pedal, it acts like I'm only resting my foot on it. It does work to some minor extent, but just barely. Not nearly enough to do any good.
This makes it almost impossible to change gears.
The car is moving forward when in gear, and it changes gears perfectly with the engine off.
I checked the brake fluid container, and it is possible that the fluid level has become lower, but I think it was at this level before the clutch failure. It is still far from the minimum sign.
Where should I start looking for faults?
And btw. Where is the EGR valve located? I suspect that the valve won't close, and want to make sure.
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #1 on: Oct 14th, 2005, 7:07am » |
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First look at the clucth pedal, under it there is a travel adjusting screw, maybe it got loose and now it's causing trouble. I had this problem and it was verry hard to change gears, and when the first gear was engaged the car would make an impulse and mave foward a bit.
As for the EGR, we have a verry good search option on the bottom of the first page.
Try this
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=egr&sp-a=sp100172f5
And to check you egr and clutch try this
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/faultfinds.htm
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #3 on: Oct 14th, 2005, 9:54pm » |
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Could your clutch need replaced??
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Kjetil S
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #4 on: Oct 14th, 2005, 11:24pm » |
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Shouldn't that cause the clutch to slip, or make it difficult to change gears also when the car isn't running?
I didn't have time to check the screw today, but I will do it asap after a good nights sleep.
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Kjetil S
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #5 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 3:23pm » |
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Octavian_P:
If you're talking about the screw located just below the master cylinder, the one which hits the padded piece of metal when the pedal is fully pressed, that screw seems to be nice and tight, and correctly adjusted.
Is there anything else that can cause this problem?
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #7 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 3:43pm » |
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I bought the car in march, and I haven't changed the brake fluid after buying it. I have no idea what the previous owner(s) have done. So it can be anything between a year ago and never.
Is brake fluid changes a part of ford services?
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #8 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 4:35pm » |
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hi there
should be changed every 2 years (i think).
hth
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Kjetil S
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #9 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 4:40pm » |
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Me and my old man decided to have a go at changing the brake fluid tonight. Does anyone know approx how much brake fluid the system contains?
Will ofcourse be back with more info on how it goes.
My dad had a look at the clutch now, and found the clutch to be moving as it should (although not as much as it should). So he guessed on the fluid as well. Either that or the slave cylinder.
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #11 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 5:12pm » |
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Thanks. I got hold of 2.5 litres now, so that should probably do it 
I checked those pages without finding anything specific about the amount needed. Also checked autodata without any luck there..
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #12 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 6:52pm » |
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Hmm.. This is weird.
The brake fluid NEEDED to be changed. It seemed like it had turned almost dark greenish, and the new fluid was crystal clear.
But the clutch still won't move far enough. I'm pretty sure we got all the air out too.
I really hope it isn't the slave cylinder, since it doesn't look easy to change.
Btw..
I pulled the vacuum line on the EGR valve and re-fitted it. The car doesn't seem to chase as much now. Probably a leak in the vacuum line?
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #15 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 8:41pm » |
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Hi
If your sure there is no air in the system then is it using fluid?
Does the fluid level drop when you press the clutch repeatly or over time. Can you see signs of any leaks?
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Kjetil S
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #16 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 9:06pm » |
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We did bleed the system until no more air came out, and then some more, so I'm pretty sure we got the air out. If there's a leak, it has to be a SMALL one. haven't noticed any big signs of leaks. Will probably try to bleed the system some more tomorrow. It is too dark outside to do anything right now.
My biggest guess right now is dirt in one of the cylinders. The break fluid seemed pretty dirty. Perhaps something is stuck in one of the cylinders, preventing them from moving freely?
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #17 on: Oct 20th, 2005, 4:02pm » |
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Got a brand new master cylinder for the clutch today (approx £110 incl VAT  ).. And started to have a look at the old one. I got the retaining clip off, and the nuts off, but i can't seem to get to the pipes. And the cylinder itself doesn't seem to come loose.
My cylinder doesn't look like the one on the drawing (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/manualtrans/ClutchMasterCyl.pdf)
My screws are placed above eachother, not next to eachother, and the front of the cylinder (where the pipes are connected) seems to go through the bulkhead.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to remove my old cylinder?
Edit: updated with correct link..
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Re: Clutch doesn't work properly
« Reply #19 on: Oct 21st, 2005, 6:19pm » |
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Oops.. my bad.. yeah, i meant the ClutchMasterCyl.pdf.. And yes, it's a "frogeyed scorpio".
1995 saloon.
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