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Paul B
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Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« on: Feb 7th, 2006, 7:43pm » |
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Been having some difficulty with various nuts & bolts on this car (the undoing of I mean).
Now I've really reached a problem one... the sump plug.
I've never touched this one myself, but the muppet that did it at the last service has really done it up tight. I can't shift it at all.
And... now its rounding over too! how the hell am I going to remove it? 
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nuttyscorp
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #1 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 7:47pm » |
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mouldgrips? or try cutting a slot in the head with a hacksaw, and remove with ratchet and flatbladded screwdriver piece, failing that gentle persuasion with a hammer and cold chisel.
Russ
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #2 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 7:53pm » |
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yup,molegrips and thingy it with a hammer
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easyrider66
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #3 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 7:56pm » |
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Try a Metrinch socket, these grip on the flats, not the corners.
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allenjames
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #4 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 8:15pm » |
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Jesus - that must be tight !
Mine is a ally sump with a sump plug with a plastic washer ?
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #5 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 8:22pm » |
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It is an alloy sump but I have to admit, I can't see a plastic washer in there.
I have all new stuff ready to go back but just need this one out. Dunno why its so tight!
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #6 on: Feb 7th, 2006, 8:24pm » |
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tap the side with a sharp chisel that will free it then fit new nut and washer
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Paulus
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #7 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 2:38pm » |
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It may have been glued on with loctite. I have come across this on several motorbikes. If the previous idiot owner has either crossed the threads (easily done with alloy) or stripped them (again...easy) the only other way to seal the plug is to glue it.
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mr._floppy
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #8 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 4:46pm » |
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Don't know about molegrips, they sure do make a mess ( I've ruined a few caliper bleed screws with 'em ), firstly get a replacement sump plug , get a big sharp cold chisel and a big hammer, find the address of the previous owner, pay him a visit and do some remedial dental work with the said chisel and hammer, No, No, only kidding, this board does not condone vengeance attacks, ( just draw him a cartoon, Ooooh! satire  )
Whack it hard in the anti-clockwise direction, that should loosen it .
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #9 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 6:08pm » |
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Well, I have new plug at the ready, but I still can't shift it 
I've tried grips, sockets, a hammer and chisel and it still aint moving!
Its not easy while laying on the garage floor, but what I have managed to notice today, is that whoever did it last time has used a metal washer 
I've now given up I'm afraid. This is going to have to go to a garage for someone else to burst a bloodvessel over.
Mr Floppy... visiting the previous owner is starting to sound good. Mind you, it was probably the garage I used for the last service 
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ForeverFord
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #10 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 7:53pm » |
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Always undo the Sump Bolt when the engine is stone cold overnight, works for me every time.
Heat makes metal expands as can be difficult to undo.
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #11 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 10:08pm » |
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Stone cold?
Its been sat around unstarted for 3 months.
i'm sure its cooled down enough by now 
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nuttyscorp
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #12 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 10:13pm » |
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on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:08pm, Paul B wrote:Stone cold?
Its been sat around unstarted for 3 months.
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it has been rather hot in Ashford lately paul 
Russ
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #13 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 10:19pm » |
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Spray loads of WD40 or anything like '3 in 1' Oil for few hours then dry off around the bolt shape and its should be able to undo, if not then that shows it possible had been strewed back on by power/air tool which shouldn't have been done!
Other trick is put an old cloth over the bolt and a next sized spanner to help to get grip to undo.
Worth an try though!
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #14 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 10:33pm » |
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on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:13pm, nuttyscorp wrote:
it has been rather hot in Ashford lately paul
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I've tried all I can try.
Like I said before, its not easy on your back when the cars on stands.
I think I need to have it on a lift or over a pit.
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #15 on: Feb 8th, 2006, 10:56pm » |
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have you got a welder, ifso weld a lenght of flat steel to the bolt then undo
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #16 on: Feb 12th, 2006, 8:06pm » |
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Well, I have a bit of an update.
The troublesome sump nut has finally come off! More heating, hitting and chiselling eventually did the trick.
This is how the old one looks now its off...
Many thanks today to Russ (nuttyscorp) and Paul (paulscorp). This wouldn't have got done today if they hadn't come round and got stuck in. Cheers again guys... I owe you one.
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paulscorp
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #17 on: Feb 13th, 2006, 7:01am » |
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It really was a pleasure Paul, glad we could finally be of assistance.
A job well done i reckon!!
Lets hope yours nuts will be fine from now on 
regards
Paul
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nuttyscorp
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #18 on: Feb 13th, 2006, 1:40pm » |
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on Feb 13th, 2006, 7:01am, paulscorp wrote:It really was a pleasure Paul, glad we could finally be of assistance.
A job well done i reckon!!
Lets hope yours nuts will be fine from now on
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ditto.......hope your dads not to mad with you regarding the oil slick 
Russ
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Paul B
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Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
« Reply #19 on: Feb 13th, 2006, 6:16pm » |
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I just got back home from an attempt at cleaning up the slick... It aint looking good
Maybe it will look better in the morning
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