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« on: Mar 10th, 2006, 10:06pm »
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did all scorpios hve these? is the whole key red or do it hve a red spot in the corner ?
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 11:17pm »
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the man i got the car off said this car dident hve a red key as its a 1998? was he telling me porkies? and can some one send a link to a pic of a red key please as i cant find one on site and there must be one , i only hve 1 key it hve a red bit in the corner do that mean its a red key ?
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 11:28pm »
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the red key is completly red, all over
 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 11:34pm »
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having said that, ive had access to a few scorps over the years, most have a completely red key, however, mine is a '98, with the red square in the corner of the key too!
 
i do not have a completely red key for this car, so, i think, your seller was not "telling porkies", he is correct!
 
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 11:47pm »
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mine is 98 as well , so perhaps its safe would the red bit be the chip? its just it wont be long befor i need to change the battery as the termanals were rusty , and sometimes when i start thecar up the  trip computer lose the miles ive clocked up , and the needles flick to the top and i was told its a week battery , thanks for ur replies nuttyscorps. Smiley sally
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 11:54pm »
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it is the red key! you MAY well be safe in disconect/reconnecting the battery, on a '98 model, i dont know if anything was changed, but my batterys been out several times for moving another scorp, and the only thing i needed to do was re-enter the radio code.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 12:06am »
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do u think it would be wise to get another key cut ? or will it be ok to use this key every day ? lol radio code i ant got that ether but the boys on site said they would be able to get it for me if i get the seriel code of the radio, so hopefully the the radio hve the serial number on it . sally
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 12:18am »
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radio code easily sorted here.....by those in the know....
 
always worth having an extra key!
 
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 12:22am »
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where would be the best place to get another key cut , and do u know how much it would cost ?
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 1:20am »
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on Mar 10th, 2006, 11:47pm, bootiful-scorpios wrote:
mine is 98 as well , so perhaps its safe would the red bit be the chip? its just it wont be long befor i need to change the battery as the termanals were rusty , and sometimes when i start thecar up the  trip computer lose the miles ive clocked up , and the needles flick to the top and i was told its a week battery , thanks for ur replies nuttyscorps. Smiley sally

 
I have recently had my battery changed, for the same problems, I don't have a red key either and all I had to do was enter the radio code
 
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 1:42am »
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on Mar 11th, 2006, 12:22am, bootiful-scorpios wrote:
where would be the best place to get another key cut , and do u know how much it would cost ?

 
most key cutters will do it, around £10ish
 
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 6:49am »
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well is nice to hear bazzay  had no trouble changing the batterytheres hope for mine now with 2 of u being ok, thanks for that russ i thought they may hve had to be done some where special ,lol,
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 6:52am »
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on Mar 11th, 2006, 1:20am, bizzay1 wrote:

 
I have recently had my battery changed, for the same problems, I don't have a red key either and all I had to do was enter the radio code
 
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did the new battery sort out the reset prob? and the flicker ?
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 7:39am »
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on Mar 11th, 2006, 6:52am, bootiful-scorpios wrote:

 did the new battery sort out the reset prob? and the flicker ?

 
Yes it did, but make sure you get the right battery (650 CCA & 71Ah) due to all the toys, cost was £60 with a 3 year warantee, have a read of the thread: -
 
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action= display;num=1139688007
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Re: red key
« Reply #14 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 4:34pm »
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I recently bought mine from a local battery store and the biggest they have is 570CCA :/ (The former one is 470CCA when I aquired the vehicle a week ago!!!!)
 
Also from what I gathered now that my car isn't starting anymore is because I disconnected the battery for too long (more than half an hour ) which results the PATS lost *something (Flash memory?)* and not reconising my black key. - Center LED rapidly flashes  
The garage said the red key is required to start and reprograme the other keys but which I haven't got.
 
I am awaiting a callback from them or Ford for a price quote.
 
Perhaps the rule of thumb when you replace your batttery is make sure you complete it as quickly as possible!!!
 
Just my two cents!
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 6:05pm »
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That's not normal either. (Not that there is a "normal" with Scorpios)
 
I've had my battery out for almost a week, on charge, then waiting for a dry day to replace it.  Refitted it this morning and it started first time. Just needed to input the radio code.
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 7:43pm »
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hi celesea , ho dear its not fair  not pasing these red keys on is it,  is there any way u could contact the person from where you brought the car for ur red key? just in case they hve got the key and kept it in a very safe place and hve forgot them selfs ? it may be worth a go as it will set u back a bit  Embarassed, thank u for the half hour warning concernig the battery did not know that cheers  Wink i hope ur car soon get sorted let me know how u get on . sally
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 9:27pm »
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What? Huh Too many glasses of the strong stuff ? Huh
 
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 9:58pm »
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The red key is the master key used for reprogramming replacement keys from Ford. When new (as far as im aware with the Scorpio when it was new) they should come with 3 keys. 1 will be the red master key, 1 plain black with the red dot in its top and the third will be either another plain black one or one of the old type with the small torch in it. If you have remote locking fitted then this will come with the seperate plip. Ive not had many dealings with the Ford PATS system but it can be overridden if replacement master keys are not available or are too expensive but then you have no immobiliser. Best bet is to have a chat with your local Ford dealer but take a chair to sit on and brace yourself.......
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 12th, 2006, 11:16am »
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Thats strange, a week?? Did you use your black key to start the car up after you refitted your battery?
 
If that is the case I have no idea why mine stopped reconising my black key!
 
bootiful-scorpios, I am afraid I contacted them and the garage said they only have the black key.
 
By the way my remote works fine, it just wont start.
 
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