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Dave2302
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24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« on: Jul 14th, 2006, 5:36pm » |
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Hi Guys,
I'm halfway through re - furbishing an engine and gearbox loom for my Cossie Estate  . No probs with doing it except the numbers had worn off two of the Injector plugs so I dont know which ones they are. I know they are NOT numbers 2, 3, 4, or 5, as these were still numbered. Of the remaining two plugs one has a Black / White trace feed, the other has a Black / Red feed. So my question is which one is number 1 injector and which one is number 6 ?  ? Can anyone help without referring me to a Ford wiring digram 
Cheers, Dave
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #1 on: Jul 14th, 2006, 5:57pm » |
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hi-black/red=6 black/white=1 hth
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #2 on: Jul 14th, 2006, 6:02pm » |
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Cheers, M8 that saved me getting my glasses out !!
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chaps
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #3 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 6:53pm » |
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HI , dont know if you or anyone can help, I need to put a new loom in, anyone know of any suppliers for an engine loom inc gear box for a 2.9 cosworth estate (1996) and what I should expect to pay for the loom
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #4 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 8:41am » |
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loom no longer available but i was quoted £1400. so i just repaired the old loom at a cost at a cost of £100 at a local motor electrical firm.
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where are all the good spares
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #5 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 4:19pm » |
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I HAVE RECENTLY DONE THIS JOB WHAT YOU NEED IS THE FUEL CUTOFF LOOMref 1003231 FROM BRAD SEWELLCOST ME £400 REACH BRAD @FORDPARTS UK VERY GOOD SERVICE FROM THESE GUYS
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #6 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 8:25pm » |
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No, it is not the fuel cut off loom but the main angine and gearbox control loom which goes from the 2 plugs on osf inner wing, under edis unit and across the valley of the engine, then down the back of bell housing to the transmission and lambda sensors. I too was quoted £1400 but told no longer available. This is why I am re - wiring a second hand loom. Regards Dave
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #7 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 7:58am » |
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How you getting on with it Dave?
That loom is not the £1400 one by the way, it is only £350- £400 & was still around a few months ago.
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #8 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 8:28am » |
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Hi Dave, not doing too bad, have only spent an afternoon so far and have almost finished the engine wires, will move on to gearbox ones next. I decided to basically replace all the wires in the loom, more for peace of mind than anything  . I have made up a "peg board" with ply and nails and cut each wire out in turn near to the plug ends and soldered / heat shrink a new wire into each one, using good quality heat resistant cable. Also considered using some heat resistant tape like exhaust manifold wrap to bind it all up in when I have finished. Regards, Dave
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #9 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 8:33am » |
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Oh by the way Dave, Could well be interested in the details of that 4 litre Cosworth engine conversion when you've got time ! Its about time I built something quick again The last project was a 2.9 24 V 4wd Escort conversion which was very very quick
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #10 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 9:48am » |
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Any pictures of that 24V Escort, you know Ford did a prototype one but I think it was only 2wd.
Yeah I can give you a link to the 4.0L stuff.
The heat resistant wrap is a good idea, that would make it 100% worry free.
Sounds like you are doing a good job.
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #11 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 10:06am » |
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Dave2302, Is there any possibility of posting a few pics of the loom rebuild and the 'kit' you made up. It seems as time goes by this type of DIY repair will become more and more necessary and those of us less skilled may be able to glean some help and confidence from someone like yourself. Good luck. Mike.
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #12 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 1:47pm » |
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Hi Mike, Yeah will take some pics this week and see if I can get them onto the site, (not very good with computers LOL Same with the Cossie Escort Rep the pics are in an album somewhere but I'll dig them out together with the Fiat 500 / 400 cubic inch Chevy that I built a few years back. ( Yes I was the loony wot built it ). Both cars were in several magazines and well publicised at the time but sadly when I got divorced about 5 years ago they had to go to raise some cash  Regards, Dave
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #13 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 1:56pm » |
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By the way, does anyone know the finis code for the 24V Engine Loom, because it appears to me that Fords may be mis describing it. It would seem that the £1400 loom is the engine bay loom, and this is definitely unavailable, but RODHGV may well be right as I have looked on Ford parts computer and there is something called a fuel cut off loom available at a list of £343.81 + VAT. The finis code is as he states,1003231, so if this is the 24valve engine / box loom I think I'll just buy a new one and wrap it in exhaust manifold tape. I'm up to my ears building an extension at home this summer, cos we are selling up next year and moving to a Lochside plot in North West Scotland, so i dont really have the time to mess around, I just want the car right LOL
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #15 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 7:34pm » |
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Hi Dave, yeah will do when I dig out the albums and scan them in. Also, according to Trev at Ford parts UK he stocks the looms new at about £330, so Ive ordered one, reckon it'll stop the Girlfriend moaning that I'm working on the car and not the extension LOL
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #16 on: Jul 21st, 2006, 5:51pm » |
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Can anyone advise on how difficult it is to replace the loom with the engine and auto box in place? The engine end looks straight forward but then the loom dissappears down to the top of the transmission, can thsi be done from underneath without dropping the gearbox down?? any help gratefully received chaps 987
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #17 on: Jul 22nd, 2006, 8:18am » |
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hi you have to disconect the exhausts and lower the rear of the gearbox.
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #18 on: Jul 24th, 2006, 8:10pm » |
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I've got mine off without dropping anything out. Had to cut one wire though that passed through a part of the box.
Don't know if I'll be able to get it all back in place though. If I have to, I'll reroute the wiring, rather than drop the box. That's just daft.
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Re: 24V Wiring Loom Refurb, Help needed
« Reply #19 on: Jul 24th, 2006, 8:12pm » |
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By the way, is a new replacement one better made than the originals? i.e. is the £400 one likely to do the same cracking insulation thingy all over again?
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