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HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Radiatr
« on: Aug 12th, 2006, 12:11am »
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b****r.......
 
trotting along nicely outside Paris this afternoon when a big bang from front of car. An object had been flipped up and it has passed through the gap under the bumper and smacked the rad for the autotransmission cooler. The pipe has been split where it enters the rad but it doesn't look like it can be ficed. I managed to by pass the rad with a bit of pipe and some jubilee clips but the joint has failed. OK, here's the biggy....Has anyone got a spare auto transmission rad (little slim black one just behind the lower grille).  
 
Second, has anyone got some really decent clips (preferably the correct "lemon" clips and a tool too!) to hold the rubber pipes onto the rad? and third, can these be shipped by DHL or similar to a hotel in Paris!!?
 
I know it isn't asking much but otherwise I have to have green flag send the car to be fixed by some French guy and I have to then rely on Ford France to supply the parts this millenium, otherwise we have to get a hire car while green flag store my car till the end of the holiday when we have to get back to Paris and come home on a transporter!
 
I know that is why I have european cover but I would prefer my first Idea! The problem with the quick fix seems to be the clips not being strong enough.
 
Naturally I would pay all costs by paypal or whatever means, bank transfer etc.
 
Crazy idea I know, but if someone can help, I will love them forever!! Can someone post this on "unleashed" as well to see if anyone there can help?
 
My mobile number is 07957 462381 and I am a bit desperate!!
 
Here's hoping.....Baz
 
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #1 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 12:13am »
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By the way, please text rather than phoning initially......my phone is always on silent!
 
Thanks
 
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 6:54am »
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Baz I can do it mate but I would surgest a temp fix.
 
Cut the two pipes that go into the rad & get a proper metal connector & jubilee up.
Check auto oil.
 
As long as your not towing & take it easy you will be fine.
 
I will text you.
 
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 7:28am »
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Dave,
 
thanks for the reply. The guy fixed it last night, but with a piece of brake pipe which may be too small. What would the correct size be? When the joint failed it blew transmission fluid out, onto the exhausts so the car looked like something from a james bond film!!!
I have actually thought of jumping eurostar and getting to london to get one from somewhere. More chances than here me thinks!
 
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 7:33am »
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Where has he cut it then?
 
It needs to be a join with barbs on as it's under pressure.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 7:42am »
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& yeah STD brake pipe is too small it will just pull apart.
 
The metal fuel pipe is about the right size, you would have to flare the ends & use some good clamps.
That should hold but to be sure you want a proper connector with barbs on it.
Even a plastic one should be O.K.
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #6 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:01am »
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I have copied & pasted this onto unleashed even though howie may have sorted you Baz
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #7 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 11:16am »
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Bad luck
 
No chance of finding a friendly  Gallic welder  and  fixing   a  new  inlet  tube  onto   the existing   rad ?
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #8 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 12:52pm »
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Baz
Could you cut & join further back onto the metal pipe if you're bypassing the cooler?
 
With the existing repair could you wire the jubilee clips together, or slip wire or strips of drink can under the clips first to tie the clips together once tightened?
 
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #9 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 1:16pm »
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hydraulic pipe is OK and should be easily obtainable. Good quaulity jubilee clips should hold it . They have on mine after I replaced the cooler pipes.
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #10 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 5:29pm »
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if its any help when it happen to me   I found 1/4" copper pipe worked perfectly ...being malleable it was easy to align the ends with the pipes leading to the cooler which i just cut off. I just made  a "U" bend so the ends aligned with the postion of the hoses
 
it was a perfect fit ..just pushed up the pipes 2-3" and used jubilee clips held fine for 6 mths. if the union aligns properly  better chance of being leak free
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 6:07pm »
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Baz:  Devastated to hear of your bad luck.  Embarassed
 
Suggestion. Have you tried Ebay France?  I can't find what the Scorpio is/was called in French, but it's possible that there just MAY be one being broken in or around Paris. Maybe your hotel could help you to contact somebody..........only a thought.  
 
There MUST also be some big breakers around a city that size too. You might be able to get parts to make do until you get home, even a cooling rad from another Ford or BMW or similar maybe. Hope you manage to sort it out.  
 
All the best. What a lousy bit of bad luck.
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #12 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 7:48pm »
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I've located a cooler, does he still need one do we know ?? also if he does how do we get it too him , I'm on the Southcoast nr Portsmouth if that helps ??
 
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #13 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:40pm »
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Update, have been in contact with Baz and now have the cooler on standby ready for sending out if required.
But it looks like he might have another issue now of a cooked auto box due to lack of an oil cooler , this is not confirmed though .
 
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #14 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:52pm »
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Thanks to Chris and Dave. Looks like the gearbox seal might have gone because under heavy use (over 60kph) the fluid shoots out all over the exhausts and turns into a smokescreen ala James Bond!
 
Will probably get the car dragged back to blighty and spend a day or so getting it right again. In the mean time I have to slum it in an "S" Class Merc with more gadgets in the glovebox than the Scorp has as a whole!
 
Will let Chris B know wether Green flag will be towing the car back and wether I need the cooler so thanks to everyone who has replied so far. I will try and post a "Merc in France" picture later in the week!
 
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:55pm »
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No it won't be because of no oil cooler it's the fact he lost most if not all his oil.
A auto won't last long if run with no oil.
 
I hope not Baz.
 
Sometimes they need a few miles to sort them selves out after they have spilled their guts Wink
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #16 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 9:02pm »
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Opps posted just after you.
 
The old front seal trouble, thats a real shame Baz it's a cheap but alot of work fix as Craig will tell you.
 
Feel sorry for you slumming it in that Merc
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #17 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 10:55pm »
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This post reminds me of a couple of films........'The French Connection'  &  'Mission Impossible' Grin
 
Hope you sort it Baz,....& enjoy the rest of your hols Wink
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #18 on: Aug 13th, 2006, 5:49am »
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Good luck Baz, Mike.
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Re: HELP... Sruck in France with a busted Auto Rad
« Reply #19 on: Aug 13th, 2006, 2:00pm »
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I live just north of Antwerp (Belgium) and have a complete 24V 96 wagon in the backyard. If you manage to come here, you can take the parts needed.
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