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Re: heated front window
« on: Aug 18th, 2006, 7:08pm »
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Engine needs to be running ( NOT enough to have just the ignition on) to check for power on the FRONT heated windscreen. and there are two seperate elements which I think are seperately fused.
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #1 on: Aug 18th, 2006, 7:26pm »
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any idea where the fuses is are? how i can check these elements
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #2 on: Aug 18th, 2006, 7:49pm »
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Fuse 38  right hand side,fuse 41 left hand side. Both located in the battery side fusebox. If you remove the grill around the wipers you will see the connectors to each side at the base of the screen. You MAY be able to locate them without removing the grill if you are lucky. Relay 18 in the same box also covers the screen.
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #3 on: Aug 18th, 2006, 9:55pm »
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i dont know if its connected but are the little red reflectors on the doors actually lights because mine dont light up although the switches seem to work as interior light activates when you open the door do these share a fuse or is this a diffrent thing all together
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #4 on: Aug 18th, 2006, 10:38pm »
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They are probably just reflectors. Check if you have lights underneath the door, if not, then they're probably just reflectors.
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #5 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:09pm »
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ok ive just checked this out fuse 38 and fuse 41 have no power feeding through them ive checked relay 18 and that only has power on terminal numbered 87 ive checked the connections to the windscreen they look good so any more ideas folks ?
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #6 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:14pm »
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Check the earth connections at the bottom of the window on each side other than that try another relay.
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #7 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:17pm »
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ive checked them they both earth fine
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #8 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:19pm »
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If its NOT the relay then I would suspect the heated element in both sides of the window have gone,  but others might have more info .
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #9 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:47pm »
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i dont think its the elelements because the light on the switch doesnt come on its not getting power i dont think but what im wondering is it because the relay isnt working ? is the power supplied to the fuses before or after the relay ?
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #10 on: Aug 20th, 2006, 7:19am »
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wiring diagrams for the scorpio are HERE even though it says sierra in the title they ARE for the scorpio
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #11 on: Aug 20th, 2006, 9:27am »
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on Aug 18th, 2006, 9:55pm, matt27 wrote:
i dont know if its connected but are the little red reflectors on the doors actually lights because mine dont light up although the switches seem to work as interior light activates when you open the door do these share a fuse or is this a diffrent thing all together
On my Ultima they light up when you open the door. Must have a permanent live because you do not need the ignition or lights on for them to activate.  
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Re: heated front window
« Reply #12 on: Aug 20th, 2006, 10:10am »
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check fuse f24 as this feeds the central timer that controls entry lights the screen switch is feed via this (engine on)you should have 12v on pin86 (relay coil)  that feed is via the engine run relay f34. you should have 12v on pin 30 of screen relay which is switched to feed screen, out of pin 87. the switch light will not come on untill the l/h screen powers up. if the relay is not in power will not feed through to switch
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