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dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« on: Aug 28th, 2006, 4:58pm » |
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Hi,
Just back from 300 mile round trip, car was nearly empty, so i stopped at a small "garage" to top up. Looked dodgy but i needed petrol. Was 98p a litre, so only put £10 in. After about 5 mins, the car starts to hunt about and a funny smell (best i can describe it is lighter fluid or marker pens). I immediately think, b****r, nuts petrol, stop at tescos and top it to the brim (another 50l), but it is still hunting and smelling.
I am 100% i used the unleaded, passenger confirms, does this sound like diesel in the tank? ive never had a diesel so dont know what it smells like.
What do i do? just hope it mixes out?
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #1 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 5:24pm » |
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look at receipt if you got one should tell you what you bought
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #2 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 5:27pm » |
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didnt get a receipt !! the one time....im trying to find the garage on the internet at the moment so i can ring them, not easy....
but 100% sure it was a green pump
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #3 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 6:04pm » |
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What garage was it? maybe someone on here is nearby
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #4 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 6:18pm » |
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had a friend drive past, its shut now, but is called Scottish Fuels?? on Gilmerton Road (Drum St), just off the bypass
will ring them tomorrow to find out what is on their records.....when i rang tonight, there is no answer message giving their name 
i even remember him saying to me "a tenner of unleaded" when i paid, and my mate says they have a BP sign on the unleaded pump
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 6:47pm » |
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cant see it beind diesel, the nozzle shouldn't fit in you filler neck
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 6:53pm » |
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good point well made, makes me feel better i havent been a numpty....
so, what do you think it is? crap in the bottom of the tank feeding through because i ran it half way through the red then only put £10 in? or crap petrol? why is the exhaust fumes stinking now?
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 6:58pm » |
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was it self serve
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #8 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 7:04pm » |
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yep
think i will run it round the bypass and see if it clears (or breaks !!), i need it for work tomorrow
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 7:14pm » |
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Wonder if the tank got so low that it's sucked up all the yuk from the deepest parts.
I know the filter will pick up solids, but ...................
Hope you clear it. 
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 7:37pm » |
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That would be my guess, all the muck from the bottom of the tank.
have a look at the filter and you should be able to tell from that.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 7:41pm » |
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ok, just been down, lots of white smoke out the exhaust, oil is not creamy, no oil coming out of the filler cap, afraid to drive it having seen the amount of smoke out the back (it smells very petrolly/something else), still hunting and shaking quite badly.
on the plus side it does start on the key.....
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #12 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 8:23pm » |
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hi , what are your water and coolant like ? any need toping up?
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 8:45pm » |
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i did have to put 1/2l of water in it before the trip (warning light came on), first time since i got the leak fixed in feb, still at max now though.....
drove the 300 miles since then without missing a beat and a few hard accelerates since then. the £10 of petrol may be unrelated, just seems a coincidence that it was running great before then, and within 2 mins everything goes wrong.....
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #14 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 8:45pm » |
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You could empty the tank.....and refill it with new fresh petrol....it may be worth more to fix a broken engine than a fill-up with gas....
This remembers me when i bought a "new type water-based gas"...... 
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 9:07pm » |
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there have been a lot of complaints about bp, their top range diesel stuff uses the same colour pump (though different shade) as the unleaded pump.
if there's lots of smoke, that sounds like oil, and diesel is oil......
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #16 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 9:10pm » |
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yep, i guess the question is
a) is there water/stale petrol in my car and would that produce these symptoms, and do i just "drive it off"
b) something more serious is going on in the engine bay
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #17 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 9:40pm » |
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When you say smoke does it stay in the air or evaporate like steam, If it stays like smoke then it does sound like you have put diesel in instead of petrol.
If it is steam like then you may have head/gassket problems.
If it started to happen not long after fueling then I would say it is the first option, If this is the case you might have damaged the cat also.
Diesel does look and smell a bit like petrol so you wouldn't notice after filling up anyway.
Hope you get it sorted soonand keep us posted.
[edit] Wynns do an additive that mixes any water, if any, in you're tank and burns it with the fuel[/edit]
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #18 on: Aug 28th, 2006, 10:10pm » |
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There is also izopropilic alcohol which mixes with water and burns...it has a 99.6 grade....it is used for taking out water in fuel systems....but i strongly recomand to get the stuff out of the tank....and clean it...... 
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Re: dodgy petrol? HELP !!
« Reply #19 on: Aug 29th, 2006, 9:23am » |
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update : i started it up this morning, plumes of white smoke hanging in the air as i drove away, within a mile the temperature was up, and the smoke disappeared. the car is still very juddery on power, and seems to lose power for a few seconds, then pick up again, then lose power again, each one 3-5 seconds. it did make it the 15 miles round the bypass !!
i rang the garage, to the response, "oh aye, sounds lilke you put diesel in, no you shouldnt be able to, have you got the receipt, our system doesnt show individual transactions, ach well".
so, im thinking diesel in the tank now (or maybe lots of water?), not sure if my heart can take 300 miles to run this tank, will get a price to drain (into a clear container so i can see if anything "separates") and a new fuel filter, on top of the £60 in petrol/diesel lost.
any other ideas? my only other option is to try some additives......
if i do get it drained, and there is a mix in there, who do i report the garage to? dont think i can prove it, but if others are complaining as well......
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