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Yalin
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Failed MOT...
« on: Feb 3rd, 2007, 2:40pm » |
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My 2.3 failed with few issues today:
1- Front Headlamp aim too low (both sides)
2- Both sites Front brake hose seriously damaged (found during steering lock to lock check)
3- Centre exhaust system has a mounting that it does not fully sport the exhaust system
My garage reckons 100 quid for the whole lot to be fixed. Number 1, tenner Number 2, sixty and Number 3, thirty quid. Do you think this is too expensive?
Could I fix any of these myself?
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PeteB
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #1 on: Feb 3rd, 2007, 3:36pm » |
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Well I reckon its a good price (cost me £300 to get mine through the MOT) personally I would get them to do it but its your preference 
Pete
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TiberiuS
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #2 on: Feb 3rd, 2007, 3:38pm » |
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Headlamp aim can be done but is tricky to get within MOT standards...you can find info on setting them on the net but the MOT allowance is very tight. Brake hoses should be easy enough, if you haven't had them touched in a while it may be worth draining and refilling the fluid anyway. Number 3, I have no idea...I'd let them do 1 and 3 and do 2 myself 
Good luck
Regards, Bruce.
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Yalin
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #3 on: Feb 3rd, 2007, 7:59pm » |
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Pete, Bruce
Thanks for your replies. Apparently Number 3 is the rubber that hooks the exhaust pipe to the car.
I think I'll let the garage do the work, otherwise I would have to pay the re-test fee.
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mr._floppy
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #4 on: Feb 4th, 2007, 1:01am » |
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Headlight alignment on the Scorp is easy to remedy, however, 100 smackers is a fair price these days for the brake hose replacement alone.
Let them do it 
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Yalin
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #5 on: Feb 5th, 2007, 11:51pm » |
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I collected the car this evening, £94 for all 3 problems, repaired.
Nice feeling to have a full year's MOT!! 
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #6 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 1:33am » |
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Nice done ! So you left the garage after all to fix it ? Happy motoring
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Jonnycab
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #7 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 1:56am » |
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As MOT failures go, that isn't a bad failure, & a pretty cheap fix as well. I've seen newer cars fail on more....infact, my old Y reg new shape Mondeo failed it's 2nd MOT miserably.
If you'd done the work yourself then you'd still have to pay for parts & the retest....& not forgetting the hassle of getting under the car in the cold
So for £94.00, you've done yourself a favour
I've got the MOT due in a couple of weeks & I've already spent over £400 on a new steering rack & two wishbones....fitted them myself to save another £300 in labour....& I've still got to stick some new rear pads in as well 
I am praying that it will pass after all this expense
Then in a months time, I've got the council's Taxi inspection test....6 months ago they failed it because of some slight water damage to the rear number plate, even though it didn't obscure the lettering at all  , (if you look at the '1' carefully, you can see a mark above it, & a mark below it) 
What will they fail it on this time.....a grubby rear view mirror ?
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #8 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 8:32am » |
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how can any body charge to adjust headlights is beyond me, i assist in MOT,s most sat mornings and if lights want adjusting it,s done there and then on the spot for nothing,even if the adjusters are seized.a lot of cars fail nowadays cos of indicators showing a white light instead of amber. gone are the days of amber indicator lenses when a white bulb which was sufficient, now there clear lenses with painted bulbs which eventually peel off with the heat , a helluva lot of cars fail on this item. what else makes my blood boil is halfords selling upgrade headlight bulbs and any other bulbs come to that but don,t fit them, then send the customer round to our garage to fit them,lazy gits,and yes we fit them free even though some bulbs can take an hour to fit
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martin_rowe
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #9 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 8:39am » |
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makes complete business scence.
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Johnboy
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #10 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 4:06pm » |
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Jonnycab,
My understanding is a Private Hire vehicle with Local Authority plates is exempt from MOT's ?
Johnboy
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Jonnycab
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #11 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 4:42pm » |
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on Feb 6th, 2007, 4:06pm, Johnboy wrote:Jonnycab,
My understanding is a Private Hire vehicle with Local Authority plates is exempt from MOT's ?
Johnboy
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Affraid not mate, besides, it's Hackney Carriage plated.
All Hackney carriage & private hire plated vehicles still have to have an MOT as well as a twice yearly test by the licensing authority. Some local councils even have three tests a year
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #12 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 6:34pm » |
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probably does make business sense martin to halfords and the man charging a tenner to reset headlights but customer satisfaction is what my mate specialises in and hope the customers will come back to him if he gives decent service. i have known this garage proprieter for over 40yrs and i,ve never ever seen him rip people off, some jobs run at a loss just to keep the people happy, takes some believing i know but i can assure it does happen here. guess who does my scorp servicing??
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craig
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mine failed the MOT yesterday as well......
mis-spacing of letters on the number plate
nearly 7 years i have that number plate,NEVER failed the test before,and NEVER been pulled by the cops....
had to get a cheap set made up,stuck them over the original plates with "buddies" and bingo passed....
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #14 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 7:04pm » |
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craig,MOT testers livelyhoods are at risk now from the ever present ministry doing secret tests on examiners,all the cars with illegal spacing no. plates normally have a spare totally legal set in the boot and are generally fitted at MOT time, when passed, the odd spacing plates are then fitted back on, until the cops do owt about it,it will always happen, we all know wats legal and wot aint but it still gets done.
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Johnboy
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #15 on: Feb 6th, 2007, 8:04pm » |
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Jonnycab,
Thanks for the info. However, our LA do not require an MOT.
"Although the test will be of MOT standard plus additional checks, an MOT Certificate may not be issued. If the Council approves your application a Certificate of Compliance will be issued which will exempt the vehicle from undergoing any additional MOT Test whilst it has a licence in force."
Do LA have different standards?
Can you please PM me how a PH vehicle can obtain a hackney plate.
Thanks mate.
Johnboy
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Jonnycab
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #16 on: Feb 7th, 2007, 1:03am » |
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That's the first time I've ever heard of a vehicle not needing an MOT to be on the road (apart from tractors etc).....oh well, as they say, you learn a new thing everyday .
I suppose if the council tester is certified to conduct MOT's then that should suffice, but I know that my licencing authority tester doesn't have a certificate issued by the MOT (only by the council, & it's the same in alot of other areas). So obviously, if the tester doesn't have a MOT tester certificate, then you would have to have the proper MOT as well.
Regarding getting a Hackney plate.......all local authorities used to be different, but due to a recent change in licencing laws there can no longer be a restriction on the issue of Hackney carriage plates. Instead you have to meet a certain criteria.
Some only used to issue a limited amount & if you wanted one, then you had to buy it from the owner of the plate.....I've seen them in the past go for between £30,000 - £35,000.
Other local authorities were de-regulated, which meant there was no limit on the amount of Hackney plates available.
About three years ago, new government legislation stated that all local authorities must become de-regulated & lift the limit on Hackney plates available.....so there's alot of plate owners out there who are a bit peaved, because their plates are worthless & bang goes their little nest egg.
I'm licenced with Brentwood council who have been de-regulated for years & seem to dish out Hackney plates like biscuits at a PTA meeting. The only restrictions are that you have either had to have owned a private hire plate for at least two years or you have had to have driven someone elses Hackney plated vehicle for at least two years.
Other local authorities are a little more picky & state that any new Hackney plates will only be issued to wheelchair accessible vehicles & only to drivers who have worked in the private hire trade for at least two years.
I'm sure that there are other local authorities with different regulations as well, but the fact remains that a local authority can no longer restrict the amount of Hackney carriage plates available, as long as the applicant meets the conditions set out by the local authority.
If the government have their way, then by the year 2010, every Hackney Carriage vehicle will have to be wheelchair accessible , but that is being fought by the trade at the moment
Sorry not to PM you Johnboy, but I thought this info may be of interest to others
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #17 on: Feb 7th, 2007, 8:44am » |
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LA inspection will not replace MOT, currant MOT is still in force.
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Re: Failed MOT...
« Reply #19 on: Feb 7th, 2007, 11:28am » |
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Am I right in thinking that breakdown lorries or recovery vehicles are exempt ( or used to be ) from the MOT test ?
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