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Slight 'miss' from cold
« on: Feb 16th, 2007, 1:32pm »
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Hi all,
 
Long time no forum - it's good to be back!
 
My car has started doing something odd.  About a minute after pulling away from a cold start, the engine seems to 'miss' slightly for a few seconds.  
 
The car kind of jerks a bit rather than pulling smoothly.
 
After maybe 5-10 seconds, the effect goes away and has never yet come back during 'normal' driving.
 
If I dip the clutch while it's happening, the engine doesn't stall and the revs seem to flatten at a normal level.  EDIT:  Correction: it happened while I was in a traffic queue yesterday, and the revs were going up & down just slightly - what you might call 'hunting' I think...
 
Background:  I recently got back off holiday and drove the car without checking fluids, etc.  After this problem reared its head, I checked and found the coolant was LOW (almost non-existant).  
 
It may be my imagination, but since I replenished the coolant, the 'jerky' effect seems to be wearing off slightly.   Maybe coincidence...
 
My own thoughts were maybe the EGR or perhaps a Lambda sensor problem...
 
I'd be grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of a [more well-informed] likely cause/cure for this happening.
 
Anyone?  Any guesses?
 
Thanks,
Nick_H
 
(Car is 2.3 '97 model with 51,000 miles behind it.)
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #1 on: Feb 18th, 2007, 10:45am »
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I would look as to where the coolant has gone first, is it still going down?? the best  way to check the other problem would be to get a scan done .
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #2 on: Feb 18th, 2007, 3:11pm »
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if you've run it low of coolant have you got a air lock arount the area of the coolant temp sensor that'll cause it to run badly as it'll always be trying to run it too rich or too lean
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #3 on: Feb 18th, 2007, 11:17pm »
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on Feb 18th, 2007, 3:11pm, lurchy666 wrote:
if you've run it low of coolant have you got a air lock arount the area of the coolant temp sensor that'll cause it to run badly as it'll always be trying to run it too rich or too lean

Hello nice to see you back
Yea!! I agree with above
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #4 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 7:59am »
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Nick, If my memory serves me correctly Pegasus, you and I met at the Black Swan,(James King) a long while back?. I thought I saw your car parked by the cottages just north of the village the other day?, would that have been you?. Wink
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #5 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 9:29am »
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Hi Simmo!
 
Yes, your memory is fine!  Smiley
 
But the car parked north of the village isn't mine - I know the one you mean - I sometimes see it parked there, too.
 
Back to the problem:
There have been no further signs of coolant loss at all, so that's a bit of a puzzle.  I don't know how much was actually left in the system, but the expansion tank was pretty much empty.
 
I hear that clearing an air-lock in the coolant system can be a bit of a drag - anyone have any tips for that?
 
And if anyone else has any other thoughts on the problem, I'd be pleased to hear...
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #6 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 10:33am »
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Nick, Try the Johnnycab method detailed HERE. Hope to meet up again soon.  Smiley Mike.
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #7 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 8:53am »
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Right, I'm gonna bump this up the list a bit...
 
I've had a go at clearing any air-lock in the cooling system - don't know how effective that's been, as the problem still exists...  
 Huh
 
Thinking about it, I'm not sure that could have caused the problem anyway - it only ever happens very shortly after starting the engine/pulling away.  I'd have thought that with an airlock in the coolant, the problem would come & go at other times too...  (Not an expert here, but it just seems likely.)
 
I wondered if any of the readings detailed on this page:  http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/instreset.htm  might give me a clue?  Anyone know what to look for?
 
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Re: Slight 'miss' from cold
« Reply #8 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 10:50am »
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Could be a problem with the IACV..... have you tried cleaning it ?
 
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