Author |
Topic: Is my engine DEAD? (Read 579 times) |
|
swiss tony
Newbie
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/bobafett.gif)
Posts: 24
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Is my engine DEAD?
« on: Feb 26th, 2007, 9:10pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Hi all, bad things have happened. Last night driving down motorway the engine juddered and smoked then lost all power and started missfiring. 40 min later friendly AA man confirmed it was running on 3 cylinders b****r! he mentioned that it could be a dropped valve but obviously without looking he's just guessing. So got towed home and started to think . About a week previously i started the car and it sounded terrible, so i took the rocker cover off and found one of the pushrods had come out! so i replaced it and tightened them up . I will have a look in the morning and see if anything is amiss. Any words of wisdom would be VERY appreciated
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd429/Matt24v/Ford%20Fair%202012/2002.jpg)
Manual'd and a 4.0 in the making
![Email](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/email.gif)
Posts: 2816
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 26th, 2007, 9:22pm » |
Quote Modify
|
what engine is it?
|
|
IP Logged |
![](http://i4.tinypic.com/15mz060.jpg) ![](http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd429/Matt24v/Scorpio%20Related/IMAG0217-1.jpg) FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
Highlander
Moderator Expert
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif)
![](http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af132/CharlieSloan/Flags/Scotland.gif)
13 Scorpios, XR4x4, Suzuki SJ413 for off road :)
![Email](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/email.gif)
Posts: 8244
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 26th, 2007, 10:56pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Sounds like the diesel if its got pushrods
|
|
IP Logged |
![](http://i8.tinypic.com/2qvxssl.gif)
on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
|
|
|
|
taliban aka Cheekyboy2
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/blank.gif) I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 1552
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 26th, 2007, 11:01pm » |
Quote Modify
|
aye, the vm diesel is a bit known for that.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
swiss tony
Newbie
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/bobafett.gif)
Posts: 24
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 3:53pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Yep its a 95 2.5 tdi with 140,000 on the clock
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
swiss tony
Newbie
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/bobafett.gif)
Posts: 24
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 6:34pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Just took the rocker cover off and one of the push rods has come out again! this time on a different cylinder. It has also snapped one side of the metal strap that holds the rocker in place. I suppose this is good news in a way (i thought a cylinder was trashed!) any thoughts why this keeps happening? cheers
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
taliban aka Cheekyboy2
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/blank.gif) I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 1552
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 9:45pm » |
Quote Modify
|
this is a trait of the vm engine, but i dont know what the cause is, other than that they're pretty bullet proof. steve savill (07761246096) a breakers in essex has a couple of td engines in if you need bits, one of which has only done 73k, im going over there monday. quite a few people on here slate steve cos of his prices which are more expensive than getting bits from members on here, but, you have to remember its he's business not a hobby, i've always had good deals from him and he's always open to offers....
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Highlander
Moderator Expert
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif)
![](http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af132/CharlieSloan/Flags/Scotland.gif)
13 Scorpios, XR4x4, Suzuki SJ413 for off road :)
![Email](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/email.gif)
Posts: 8244
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:01pm » |
Quote Modify
|
thats as maybe but a lot of his second hand parts are more expensive than FMD new parts!! Still if people are willing to pay those prices then good luck to him
|
|
IP Logged |
![](http://i8.tinypic.com/2qvxssl.gif)
on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
|
|
|
|
taliban aka Cheekyboy2
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/blank.gif) I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 1552
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:34pm » |
Quote Modify
|
i've never found that, and i've always had a good deal on stuff from him, like i say, get chatting to him and he'll do a deal....
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Highlander
Moderator Expert
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif)
![](http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af132/CharlieSloan/Flags/Scotland.gif)
13 Scorpios, XR4x4, Suzuki SJ413 for off road :)
![Email](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/email.gif)
Posts: 8244
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 11:49pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Not with me he didnt, he was quite off with me even though i offered to buy a facelift bumper at some over inflated price and travel from Scotland to collect it.
|
|
IP Logged |
![](http://i8.tinypic.com/2qvxssl.gif)
on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
|
|
|
|
taliban aka Cheekyboy2
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/blank.gif) I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 1552
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 6:30pm » |
Quote Modify
|
scotland hadnt just beaten england in some sporting event had they?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Highlander
Moderator Expert
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/starmod.gif)
![](http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af132/CharlieSloan/Flags/Scotland.gif)
13 Scorpios, XR4x4, Suzuki SJ413 for off road :)
![Email](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/email.gif)
Posts: 8244
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 8:17pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Yeah probably
|
|
IP Logged |
![](http://i8.tinypic.com/2qvxssl.gif)
on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
|
|
|
|
sector-9
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/dilbert.gif) No scorpio anymore
Posts: 1069
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #12 on: Mar 1st, 2007, 6:43pm » |
Quote Modify
|
I'm guessing, but I'd say that the push-rod is coming out because the hydraulic tappet beneath it isn't extending to take up the clearance. If that's the case then either it's a faulty tappet, or there's a problem with oil flow to it. Either way I don't envy you as I think the head has to come off to replace the tappet (hope I'm wrong). Having said that, running some engine flush through and then changing the oil to 15W-40 or thinner may help - I assume it's not running on 20W-50? Darren
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
swiss tony
Newbie
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/bobafett.gif)
Posts: 24
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 1st, 2007, 6:47pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Went down to my local FMD today for a laugh, the bloke was actually quite helpful. I explained what had happened with the aid of my diagram (thanks to this site) he said it could be one of several things and without looking etc etc, anyway i went next door to the parts department and low and behold they didn't have any and couldn't get any . So it looks like i will be scouring the salvage yards for some replacement bits? will keep you posted
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
swiss tony
Newbie
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/bobafett.gif)
Posts: 24
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #14 on: Mar 1st, 2007, 10:03pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Cheers Daren think i will try that next fingers crossed
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
sector-9
Senior Member
![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif) ![*](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/star.gif)
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/avatars/dilbert.gif) No scorpio anymore
Posts: 1069
|
![](https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/xx.gif) |
Re: Is my engine DEAD?
« Reply #15 on: Mar 2nd, 2007, 8:15pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Well Rover used the same engine in the 800 series so you could try a Rover dealer... Seriously, the VM engine was used in many cars including old Range Rovers, the Vauxhall Frontera, Jeep Cherokee, Rover 800, etc, etc. Many of the newer applications used direct injection so the heads were different, but I think they all used pushrod OHV technology (no need for anything else being as they don't rev that high). There's also a "VM specialist" in Chesterfield; do a web search and you should find their site - no idea how good they are though, last time I rang they didn't want to give me any info over the phone but wanted me to leave the car with them (and pay for it of course!). Darren
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
|