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mrgraves
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #20 on: Jun 16th, 2007, 1:33pm » |
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yes it has confused me at first as the book said it was for auto trans
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #21 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 11:13am » |
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its getting worse by the minute just been playing with it again, i've reconnected the battery after a charge and there is smoke coming from the n/s fuse box so that has me thinking maybe thats the issue in the first place
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #22 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 12:01pm » |
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sounds like water ingress, i'll pop over today
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #23 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 12:07pm » |
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ok cheers mate im in all day
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #24 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 12:15pm » |
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i'll pop round in the next 30mins, just havin some lunch hehe
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #25 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 8:38pm » |
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hhmmm
myself and matt have spent three hours going over my scorp today and still no luck
its really strange
i was told that because there are two coil packs on the 8v that it is almost impossible for them to go (does anyone know if this is true before i go out and buy a set)
or if anyone has some for sale please mail me
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #26 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 8:49pm » |
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Never heard that one before but I'd be very surpised if both have gone at the same time.
Even with one not working you should still be able to start it although it will be very rough..
Sounds similar to the problem Alastair and I are having with his 2.3
PATS ok?
EDIS module below the coolant reservoir?
have you had it running since the new keys were programmed??
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Matt
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #27 on: Jun 17th, 2007, 9:05pm » |
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yes its a very odd problem, the only 'apparent fault was a soaked aux fuse box which we stripped and cleaned/dried.
car cranks but does not fire as phill has stated, fule cut off sw, pump, relays etc all work as there is a fule supply right up to the pipe unions.
there is no error code being flashed up,
it seems as if there may be 2 options, crank and cam sensors, or there is a wireing problem as the AA bloke called out said there is no feed to the coil packs.
btw this problem happedned over night, car was used on a long trip one day, then wouldnt start the next....
very odd indeed
on a side note, believe it or not, the two of us work for the same company and didnt realise!!! what are the odds lol
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #28 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 8:34am » |
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Do you have a voltmeter? Or even a simple 12v lightbulb on a cord? If so please measure
- coil voltage - should come on and off when cranking
- injectors - should be high and low when injecting
- capacitor front of engine (viz my earlier post)
To measue just carefully lightly scratch a wire, exposing copperstrands.
If any voltage is missing: drill down
HTH,
Ray
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #29 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 9:16am » |
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Change the Crank Angle Sensor. I have had this with Granada Scorpios and a dead CAS will give this problem
Ian
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mrgraves
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #30 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 7:29pm » |
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is that the one that sits the top of the engine block or the one by the oil filter (always get the two mixed up  )
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #31 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 8:54pm » |
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actually never mind just found one on ebay will just have to wait a couple of days for delivery
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #32 on: Jun 18th, 2007, 9:03pm » |
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Its located near the oil filter or starter motor (depending whether manual or auto.
good luck
Ian
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #33 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 6:12pm » |
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ah well was not the sensor then i've replaced and still no joy
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #34 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 6:29pm » |
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OH!!!! That's bad news.
Not sure what else to check at the mo
Ian
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #35 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 6:32pm » |
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Hi. Is there a crank and cam sensor? I'm not sure about the 8v. Did you have this issue before you had the new key made?
I'm thinking either that or maybe something in the PATS
So you've got no fuel and no spark either?
It's gotta be something in the anti-theft system, surely??
ECU issue? Connectors ok?
Sorry, just stabs in the dark 
Regards, Bruce.
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #36 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 6:35pm » |
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Good points Bruce.
Also, before looking into that, just disconnect the battery for 10 mins or so to let the ECU reset the mapping. Even with a replacement sensor, it may need to reset the map before being willing to start.
Another thought is the Throttle Position Sensor. Try to start it with the multi-plug to the TPS disconnected.
Ian
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #37 on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 5:39pm » |
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tried it with the tps disconnected and have reset the mapping by taking the bat of for a while still no luck ive never known anything like it i am seriously considering calling it a day and scrapping not even two mechanics who have looked can figure it out 
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #38 on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 5:48pm » |
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is the pats unit the small back unit behind the glove box (next to the ecu)?
if thats it, i can take the one off my 12v er to try it
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Re: at the end of my teather please help
« Reply #39 on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 6:03pm » |
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yes it is but im not sure it is as simple as plugging another one in or is it?
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