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ferretmobile
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Hi guys, my 2.3 is consuming coil packs. During the last two years it has got through at least four. These things are not cheap. If I order them from FPUK they are about £75 But if I am unable to wait and order from my local ford dealership, who can have them for me by lunch time the following day, they are £93 each...ouch!
I dont understand why I am suffering from this problem.
I have this week replaced a pack and to be fair the H.T. leads (long and short) were very old, so I replaced these as well. I checked over the low tension wires to the packs and they diddnt look to bad. The l.T. wires continue into the cam sensor and the insulation here was a bit suspect, so I wrapped black insulating tape around this part to keep the damp out and to stop the insulation from degrading any more.
When I had completed all of the above inc replacing the dodgy coil pack, I turned the engine over and to my relief she roard into life. Much tea and ciggys later, I put the lid on with the ten 10mm bolts and took it for a spin.
So far she has been perfect but I am at a loss as to why she is consuming so many coil packs.
Do any of you pundits here have the same problem with the 2.3? I would be very interested to know.
cheers ferret
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Highlander
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:01pm » |
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They're not overheating are they?
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Jonnycab
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #2 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 4:41am » |
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Hi Ferret......Wow, coils packs have gone up a bit at FMD since I last bought them...£65 each about 4 years ago....Ford really must be in trouble
There was a company on Ebay that sold them for £35, but can't remember the name....will need some hunting down.
Are the FPUK coil packs the same as the FMD ones ?....if they're pattern parts, then they may not be made to the same standard. FMD ones are made in Slovenia (where ? )
It could have also been the old HT leads doing the damage as well. Hopefully they'll be okay now that you've got new HT leads 
If it's due to overheating, then maybe the plugs are shot. If not, you could do what I did....bought a spare cover & drilled holes in it to let the heat out......I now have two 2.3 engine covers, one for summer & one for winter 
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #3 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 9:32am » |
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FPUK coil packs are ford ones,
In January cost £43.21each plus VAT & post £5
£107.41 inc. the pair
leads were £7.72 each plus VAT
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Kenboy
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #5 on: Aug 27th, 2007, 6:27pm » |
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Visit AZCARPARTSCOUK £29.00 including vat plus p/p, just purchased two.
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #6 on: Aug 27th, 2007, 7:02pm » |
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That's cheap. Are they Ford ones?
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #7 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 4:17pm » |
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Hi guys, thank you for the replies. I wouldnt know if the coil packs were overheating, is this a common occourence on the 2.3? As they are sitting on top of what is I suppose a huge heat exchanger one would suppose that the packs were fairly heat proof.........silly me!
I have changed the plugs and do so about twice a year. But I have noticed an orange corona on the plugs recently which would indicate more than normal heat exchange but prehaps that was due to the dodgy leads.
J.C., an interesting solution to the heat dissipation problem Re drilling holes in the summer cover. Did you have the same problem as here?
I hope that I have cured the problem this time cos these parts aint cheap.
If it goes belly up again ...........nah, dont go there.
Ferret
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Jonnycab
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #8 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 4:28pm » |
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Hi Ferret, no I didn't have the same problem as you. I just thought it might help in prolonging the life of the loom & stop it from cracking up 
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #9 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 5:58pm » |
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Ahhh I see. Funny thing is, my LT wiring has been pre-wrapped in black plastic leccy tape, unlike some of the typical scorp wiring that has a cloth style wrapping that likes to come adrift, for example the wiring in the boot.
The only bit of LT wiring that wasent plastic wired was to the cam shaft sensor. And you know where that is J.C.
What were the wire colours, I seem to recall hmm, that they may have been pink, pink and oh yeh...pink
Sorry J.C. couldent resist it.
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #10 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 7:13pm » |
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What about lifting the top cover off altogether?
should be ok unless you pressure wash your engine (like me)
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #11 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 9:52pm » |
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Would that be OK? Presumably in the Summer months (what summer) this would be no problem. Any of you other lads and lassies out there run your 2.3 dohc units this way??
Highlander, do you have a 2.3 sans lid? or does bonnie scotland have other wee pressing problems................................................................ ................................like only getting andy stewart on the radio.
Only pulling yer dirk Highlander!!
Now that Moira Stewart...........................
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #12 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 10:24pm » |
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Can't wait to see your response to this one Stuart. Not a mention of Sidney (tiny bubbles) Devine. Go get him.
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #13 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 11:00pm » |
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He's only jealous
I dont run a 2.3 but I have a spare lid if you want it.
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #14 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 12:28pm » |
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A fawning and a groveling over here!
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Jonnycab
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #15 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 11:48pm » |
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on Aug 28th, 2007, 5:58pm, ferretmobile wrote:Ahhh I see. Funny thing is, my LT wiring has been pre-wrapped in black plastic leccy tape, unlike some of the typical scorp wiring that has a cloth style wrapping that likes to come adrift, for example the wiring in the boot.
The only bit of LT wiring that wasent plastic wired was to the cam shaft sensor. And you know where that is J.C.
What were the wire colours, I seem to recall hmm, that they may have been pink, pink and oh yeh...pink
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The loom should be pre-wrapped in black armoured plastic shielding & not leccy tape.....could it have been repaired before ?
As for the pink wiring to the cam shaft sensor......I pink you're wrong & I pink you're being sarcarstic.....
......Ooh I do hate sarcarsm....
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #16 on: Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:06pm » |
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After I had one? bevvy too many last tuesday evening, on wednesday morning all I wanted was ....pink pink fizz
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Fidget
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #17 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 10:31am » |
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Jusst a thought, but are you certain that you are using the correct spark plugs?
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ferretmobile
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #18 on: Sep 12th, 2007, 3:02pm » |
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oooo yessum. I have tried NGKs Bosh and Motorcraft.
I compare like with like before replacing and often consult the good book on plug size before I buy, which is about twice a year cos of my daily high millage 
So it aint the plugs.
Incedently the beast is going well at the moment.......except for an odd donk sort of noise. Here we go again. But the memsahib has promised that if I make a start on the front room, she wont mind if I give the scorp to local spanner wielding robber for fettling and a-fixing.
Looks like me fishing on Sunday is out of the window.
Ferret
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Fidget
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Re: coil packs
« Reply #19 on: Sep 12th, 2007, 10:03pm » |
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LOL!
Anyway, I found that Ford changed the recommended plug from first issue, at least that's what my FMD said. It aint the brand that matters, its the type
Try night fishing, it offers a suitable method of conducting an affair at a later date or a good excuse for a piss up in the dark with hardly any one else knowing
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