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grandadman
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This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« on: Nov 25th, 2007, 3:58pm » |
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I am a bit of a perfectionist to the point of being a pain in the posterior 
Take a look at THIS -am I being a little too OTT worrying 
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #1 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 5:52pm » |
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Despite having replaced those bushes myself, I can't quite work out from the photos what has gone wrong - but certainly it looks very wrong. You are right to be worried!
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grandadman
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #3 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:03pm » |
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If you look where the arrow is, he has put a large washer on the the rear facing bearing shaft, then the rubber bearing assembly and tightened the whole thing very tight before fitting the wishbone to the vehicle.
I hope this clarifies it a bit better 
I think you are right scorpio_man
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #4 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:09pm » |
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Regarding the wishbone rear bush...yes, that washer should be there & if you look closely at it (when it's removed) you will see it is shaped inwards on one side around the hole, so it fits snug to that part of the wishbone
Just to clarify, there are two washers, one either side of the bush
Also, it shouldn't have been tightened before the wishbone was fitted. It should be tightened after the wishbone is fitted & the weight of the car is on the ground, otherwise it will exert extra pressure on the bush & the bush will fail prematurely
Hope this helps 
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grandadman
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #6 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:32pm » |
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Have a look at THIS which is what scorpio_man suggests - clarified a bit more
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #7 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:41pm » |
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The washer is shown...it's number 23. The diagram isn't very clear about it going on before the bush. But if you think about it logically, why would you need two washers at the end ?
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #8 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:42pm » |
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The bad news in this dilemma is that the washer only apears on the OSF drivers side which is what started me thinking is that right
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #9 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:53pm » |
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Go back to the mechanic & ask him to put a washer on the other side. He doesn't have to remove the whole wishbone, just undo the rear holding nut & 4 clamp bolts, lever the arm down & pull the bush off. It shouldn't take too long
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grandadman
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #10 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:54pm » |
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Yeah jonnycab I do think that you are right!
so the sequence would be shaft then> [refer to diag for#]
1. large washer [#23]
2. rubber bearing assy [#7]
3. washer [#22]
4. 18mm nut [#20]
We are nearly there - one last thing - The recommended torque for this particular
retaining nut [#20]
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #11 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 6:55pm » |
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OK you are absolutely right - I'll sleep tonight 
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #12 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 7:02pm » |
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There doesn't seem to be a recommended torque for this nut (20), it should just be tight.
But not super tight though, I once managed to shear off the end of the wishbone by trying to get it as tight as possible .....
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #13 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 7:12pm » |
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There is a little bit more to tell you but my dinner's ready - b bak l8r
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #15 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 10:32pm » |
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Looks as though THIS washer is OK
Thanks scorpioman for your guidance and help and thanks to everyone else
Good night
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grandadman
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #16 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 10:58pm » |
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I have updated my latest picture which really puts this matter to rest - it looks as though my mechanic has messed up with his sequence of re-assembly of the parts and I picked it up!
But I did say at the begining I am a bit pedantic and I like things done according to the 'book' especially when I am shelling out good money to the experts of this world
btw the latest and last pic is THIS one
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #17 on: Nov 25th, 2007, 11:02pm » |
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WOW  I have just noticed that I have been promoted to 'Full Member' Thanx to everybody concerned.
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #18 on: Nov 26th, 2007, 12:00am » |
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on Nov 25th, 2007, 11:02pm, grandadman wrote:| WOW I have just noticed that I have been promoted to 'Full Member' Thanx to everybody concerned. |
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That means you now have to go through the initiation ....I vaguely remember bits of mine  ...... 
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grandadman
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Re: This suspension problem is driving me nuts!
« Reply #19 on: Nov 29th, 2007, 9:06pm » |
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Final post on this subject from me. Info HERE
Thanks folks
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