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ChrisF
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Banging from the engine on a 2.3 - WITH SOUND
« on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 5:45pm » |
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Wow this just goes on and on. I dont think that it is the timing chain. The symptons are the clattering is in sync with the revs, it appears to be one per rev, it only ocurs when the engine is running it doesnt occur when the engine is turned over on the starter motor with no plugs in. The camshaft seems ok now that the no 2r has been tightened down. The plug were all tight until they were removed.
It went from nothing except the tic it has always had (which I pesumed was the timing chain, now appears to have gone, I think it was the camshaft cap) to a full blown CLACK CLACK CLACK over about 50 mls, gradualy getting louder and louder. But it doesnt appear to be comming from the front of the engine but I could be wrong. It doesnt seem to effect the tickover or the running at all, starts first time. I dont think it is the cat, its to rhythmic for that increases exactly with the revs.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #1 on: Jun 24th, 2008, 6:15pm » |
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First thing I would do is to get a compression test done to rule out holed pistons / head gasket / burnt valves and see if that turns up anything amiss.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #2 on: Jun 24th, 2008, 10:47pm » |
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Inoperative hydraulic tappet ?
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #3 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 8:50am » |
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Cracked exhaust manifold / blown gasket.
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #4 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 12:16pm » |
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how do you find an inoperative tappet and whats the cure gozz
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #5 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 3:25pm » |
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Yep I'd check the exhaust manifold, especially at the rear between number three and four cylinder. favourite spot for it..
Might be easier to spot when its warmed up.
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #6 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 4:49pm » |
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Thanks y'all I will check tomorrow, would the exhaust manifold give that sound and that loud. It doesn't make any difference how warm it is.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #7 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 10:42pm » |
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Chris.
To check for duff hydraulic tappets you need to get the top off,and get each cylinder in turn on top dead centre on the firing stroke eg all valves closed,then see if any clearance exists between cam and tappets,there should be no clearance,any required adjustment is automatically done by the oil in the tappet piston.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #8 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 10:57pm » |
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on Jun 25th, 2008, 4:49pm, ChrisF wrote:| It doesn't make any difference how warm it is. |
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It does when you're looking for a crack 
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #9 on: Jun 26th, 2008, 3:27pm » |
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I've checked the tappets, as I've done each pair in turn on TDC there is no gap so I'll assume they are ok. Next is the exhaust its taking quite a time to get it of as the bottom bolts are a bit awkward to get off, spanner rash all over my hands. I'll let you know how I get on.
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #10 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 5:51pm » |
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Nope it wast'nt the exhaust gasket new one fitted all tighetened up still the same loud CLACK CLACK, it came on over about 50 miles gradualy, starting very quietly, just perceptible ending up very loud indeed, makes people up the road turn round. I cant keep changing things I'm running out of money, anybody got any ideas.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #11 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 9:02pm » |
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on Jun 23rd, 2008, 5:45pm, ChrisF wrote:| The camshaft seems ok now that the no 2r has been tightened down. |
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What did you tighten down?
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #12 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 9:19pm » |
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Hello Chris
You most probably have checked this already,but i had a Merc 300Te and it was making a clack clack clack noise which sounded like a tappet.
All it was was a crack in the aux drive belt(multi v type).
Richard
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #13 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:50pm » |
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It was all the bolts on the ex manifold Highlander
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3 = WITH SOUND
« Reply #14 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:52pm » |
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No Jasper that was the first thing I checked sorry mate.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #16 on: Jul 4th, 2008, 3:12am » |
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If the clacking is coming on gradually & getting louder as the engine gets hotter, then could it be a lubrication problem in the cylinder head ?.....oil pump problem or clogged oilways ? 
I still reckon you should flush the engine & refill it with fresh oil to see if there is any change
Just a thought
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #17 on: Jul 5th, 2008, 6:06pm » |
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Any clever b****r know how to get a Sound Clip on here I've recorded it. It is loud.
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #18 on: Jul 5th, 2008, 6:22pm » |
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on Jul 5th, 2008, 6:06pm, ChrisF wrote:| Any clever b****r know how to get a Sound Clip on here I've recorded it. It is loud. |
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hi there
host it on photobucket, etc as a video clip, them post the link.
hth
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ChrisF
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Re: Banging from the engine on a 2.3
« Reply #19 on: Jul 5th, 2008, 6:27pm » |
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Sorry lost me when you mentioned computer. I am not computer literate, what is photobucket then who do I post what link to.
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