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Interior lights not working and other odd problem
« on: Sep 27th, 2008, 2:55pm » |
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My interior lights do not seem to work. The 20 second delay and map reading ones this is. Front and rear.
I've checked all releveant fuses and all seem to be ok.
Not sure if related but when I push my ashtray in hard, it turns my side lights on  when I let go they go off!
Anyone any ideas?
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #1 on: Sep 27th, 2008, 3:10pm » |
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hi there
there's a lot of metal work behind the ashtray. sounds like you're getting a short.
did you check fuse 36?
hth
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #2 on: Sep 27th, 2008, 6:17pm » |
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thanks scorpio_man, i've checked the fuses and all seem to be fine. done the obvious like check bulbs even! at a loss what to do 
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #3 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 11:58pm » |
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It might be related to the power saver relay in the fuse box next to the battery. I had issues with my interior lights and a bridge of wire had been put between two of the terminals on the power saver relay to make things work, unfortunately this also drained the battery if the car sat for a couple of days
I changed the fusebox to solve another problem and it fixed the interior lights too!
Cheers Jim
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #4 on: Sep 30th, 2008, 9:09am » |
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how hard is it to change the fuse box?
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #5 on: Sep 30th, 2008, 5:35pm » |
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The one next to the battery is a doddle, There's one or two bolts hold it in (if I remember correctly) and once it's unbolted, the wiring is very accessible to unplug.
I took the other side fuse box from the spares car and even with the entire dash out, it was a real pain trying to undo the multi plugs, god knows how you'd get them back in, here's hoping I never have to try 
I've just checked the old power saver relay to see which terminals were bridged, just in case you want to give that a try to see if the interior lights work. It's the yellow relay and terminals 87 & 86 were linked together with a bit of wire. As I said earlier, this used to drain the battery but might be worth a quick try to see if that's the problem area.
Cheers Jim
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #6 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 7:23am » |
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Morning all, i have a similar problem with interior lights, it could be the ash try but how do you get the blasted thing out, i mean the whole fitting, i did do a search first if i have missed it i apologise 
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #7 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 9:10am » |
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It is only removable by first removing the fascia panel I'm afraid. The details are HERE.
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #8 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 9:30am » |
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Thanks Simmo, have printed that off, shall wait for the sun to warm up a bit then go and have a look, i may be gone some while !!
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #9 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 10:46am » |
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The ashtray is shorting out on the cigar lighter when you push it in. It IS possible to turn this around to prevent this happening with a bit of fiddling also have to replaced fuse 36 the power saver one worth a try.
If its the timer module I have a spare one somewhere but that is as far as I know on the front bult head.
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #10 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 10:53am » |
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that's interesting. i've also noticed the ashtray light is permanantly on, i can see it through the ashtray when it's dark.
does the cigar lighter have it's own independent fuse? or does another circuit share this fuse? I could try removing the fuse for the cigar lighter to prevent it shorting and then try the lights.
if the timer module is broken, would this prevent the interior lights functioning altogether? is it easy to replace?
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #11 on: Oct 2nd, 2008, 7:03pm » |
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Yes the cigar lighter is on PERMANENT LIVE fuse 43 in the aux fuse box covers seats and cigar
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #12 on: Oct 3rd, 2008, 10:24am » |
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so would have to disconnect the battery first to be safe?
would the timer module prevent the interior lights working altogether if broken?
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #13 on: Oct 3rd, 2008, 12:20pm » |
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hi there
have you ran the timer diagnostic yet? see the fault finder for details.
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #14 on: Oct 7th, 2008, 11:26am » |
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tried the timer diagnostic and it beeped at the right times and in the right places!
what else can i do? is a right pain at night!
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #15 on: Oct 10th, 2008, 7:34pm » |
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fixed one problem. removed the ashtray completely today, turns out the light for the ashtry had fallen out the holder and when the ashtray was pushed back far enough it was making contact with something else and turning on the side lights, odd but it's now resolved.
however im at a real loss as to why the interior lights don't work. have done all the fault finding recommended, checked fuses and bulbs but no result yet. they certainly used to work up to about 3 weeks ago and nothing was done to the car in that time, which is a shame cos then at least i might have had a clue where to look
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #16 on: Oct 10th, 2008, 8:12pm » |
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Have you had the multi pin plugs off the doors recently? If so make sure they are located back properly. Another one is the multi pin plug on the drivers side fuse box? Worth checking all of those . specially the fuse box one as it can be located one row of pins out gives all sorts of strange problems..
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #17 on: Oct 13th, 2008, 11:29am » |
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randomly, my interior lights have started to work again!
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #18 on: Oct 13th, 2008, 12:23pm » |
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hi there
i think you answered your own question earlier with regards to the ashtray.
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Re: Interior lights not working and other odd prob
« Reply #19 on: Jan 27th, 2009, 8:43am » |
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Randomly (again) they stopped working, shortly after I posted though.
However, this morning, I turned my headlights on and voila, all my interior lights came on
Then 2 minutes later, went off and wouldn't come on again.
So, excited to think I knew the problem now, I pulled over to have a fiddle
Removed the headlight switch, disconnected the plug, had a look at the block and the pins, looked good, reconnected and we now have fully functional lights again!
Surprised it's related to the headlight switch, but hopefully if someone searches for this problem in future, this will help! ding dong
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