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temprature gage going down and no heat in car
« on: Dec 3rd, 2008, 10:27pm »
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I have 2.5tdi and at the moment it temp goes down  on motorway and also the heater is not operating at it usual hot self its loop warm  I have taken the engine sheald off the bottom would this affect the temp.please help
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 3rd, 2008, 10:54pm »
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Hi Smiler, it would be worth checking if the electric fans are running all the time. Failing that, it could be a stuck open thermostat. My temp gauge drops too but the heater is working fine (thankfully) so I'm sure it's just a dodgy temp sender switch. I'd change it if I could work out which one it is  Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 3rd, 2008, 11:27pm »
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Smiler.
If your heater is OK when the temp gauge is up (if it goes up) the thermostat will be faulty.The under cover missing will not affect the water temp.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 3rd, 2008, 11:48pm »
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on Dec 3rd, 2008, 10:54pm, mijfife wrote:
Hi Smiler, it would be worth checking if the electric fans are running all the time. Failing that, it could be a stuck open thermostat. My temp gauge drops too but the heater is working fine (thankfully) so I'm sure it's just a dodgy temp sender switch. I'd change it if I could work out which one it is  Roll Eyes
 
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so does mine jim  after i changed the thermostat
when i am stop and runing short runs  it sits mid way  when i move longer distance it moves down to just above the white  mark above cold  but my heater are hot  no problems  no matter where the guage sits
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 3rd, 2008, 11:58pm »
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on Dec 3rd, 2008, 10:27pm, smiler wrote:
I have 2.5tdi and at the moment it temp goes down  on motorway and also the heater is not operating at it usual hot self its loop warm  I have taken the engine sheald off the bottom would this affect the temp.please help

if it does'nt open your heaters will be cold  and it will overheat  or just opens slightly it will be luke warm  best to take out the thermostat test it in some really hot water to see if it opens  if it opens only a little   change it   dont get it from ford £60  get it from vauxhall
£40 ask for one for a 1995 on frontera 2.5 tdi  they have the same engine as the scorpio  i had the  same problem as you  last week  i changed the thermostat  and it cured my problem
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 4th, 2008, 2:00am »
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Agree....classic symptoms of a stuck open T-stat......engine temp fine around town but gauge drops when on a run  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 4th, 2008, 12:36pm »
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on Dec 4th, 2008, 2:00am, Jonnycab wrote:
Agree....classic symptoms of a stuck open T-stat......engine temp fine around town but gauge drops when on a run  Smiley

 
are you sure i have just put a new thermostat in my tdi  
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 5th, 2008, 10:24am »
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thank you all we have replaced thermostat and all seems well at the moment thermostat  12 pounds factors why don't they supply gaskit  with themostat  thats what I want to know .
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on Dec 4th, 2008, 12:36pm, python9 wrote:

 
are you sure i have just put a new thermostat in my tdi  
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You've probably got a dodgy temp gauge sender then if the heater stays hot  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 5th, 2008, 5:04pm »
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on Dec 5th, 2008, 3:20pm, Jonnycab wrote:

 
You've probably got a dodgy temp gauge sender then if the heater stays hot  Smiley

and that was  new 3 months ago when i did the head gskets as when they blew they melted the temp sensor  
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 5th, 2008, 7:24pm »
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I've found temp gauge senders to be pretty unreliable. In the 3 years I've had the Scorp, I've had 4 new temp gauge senders, as they keep failing  Huh
 
Another thought....maybe it's the gauge itself. Had a similar problem with the wifes old Mondeo, gauge would suddenly drop down to about quarter, stay there for a bit & then rise back up to the middle. Changed the t-stat & gauge sender & the cooling fans worked as they should.....so I just put it down to a dodgy gauge.
As the car was running fine & the heating was still nice & hot, I just couldn't be bothered to worry about it anymore  Roll Eyes..... Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 5th, 2008, 9:04pm »
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on Dec 3rd, 2008, 11:48pm, python9 wrote:

so does mine jim  after i changed the thermostat
when i am stop and runing short runs  it sits mid way  when i move longer distance it moves down to just above the white  mark above cold  but my heater are hot  no problems  no matter where the guage sits

there is  black one and a green one  on heads 3 and 4 at the back  head 4 is green thats the temp sender  the other one on head 3  i dont know what thats for that is black
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 5th, 2008, 9:06pm »
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on Dec 3rd, 2008, 10:54pm, mijfife wrote:
Hi Smiler, it would be worth checking if the electric fans are running all the time. Failing that, it could be a stuck open thermostat. My temp gauge drops too but the heater is working fine (thankfully) so I'm sure it's just a dodgy temp sender switch. I'd change it if I could work out which one it is  Roll Eyes
 
Cheers Jim

its green and is on head 4  under the edge of the header tank  above the desiel filter
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