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timduffy7
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Dead dash and windows & wipers
« on: Mar 31st, 2009, 8:19pm » |
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Hi I'm having electrical problems and hope you may be able to help.
I was driving the car the other day along a straight road, when I noticed the dash needles all died ?? When I got home I could then see alot more had stopped working as well.
Switch the car of and tried to start again ?
No lights in dash-nothing. Starter cranks and starts OK then runs OK. The only problem with its running --- when you let the trottle off it comes down to tick over but seems to run a little fast for a few seconds then settles down to normal tick over.
As well as dash not working Temp control readout, heater blower and Steering colum controls not working---no indicators no wipers Also no electric windows working. I have checked all fuses in both fuse boxs they are OK. Removed all relays and put them back incase there was bad connection. I have tried a new battery incase it was a low voltage problem. But it is still the same
No Dash no wipers no heater blower no eletric windows no indicators.
THE HAZARD FLASHERS are working Radio working electric seats working HELP
Hoping someone will tell me "theres a little reset button LOL LOL
Many thanks for any replies.
Tim
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #1 on: Mar 31st, 2009, 8:47pm » |
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Have you had the drivers side fusebox multiplug off?
Make sure its seated correctly, there are two small lugs on the end of it that have to be located underneath their holders before the multiplug is pushed down..
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #2 on: Mar 31st, 2009, 9:48pm » |
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main fusebox is dead. it may look OK from outside but inside [when you strip it] it's most likely corroded...
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #3 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 1:44am » |
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Might be worth checking the 60 & 80amp fuses in the Auxiliary fuse box, I II & III.
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #4 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 12:10pm » |
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Hi thanks for your info. I have checked all fuses including 60/80 amp fuses----all are OK. Have checked multiplug again all looks OK. But still the same, ie dash windows wipers blower motor Dead Central fuse box looks OK
If I have to change central fuse box, can I get it out from the outside of the car or do I have to go under the Dash from inside the car.
Thanks again for all your help ? Tim
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #5 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 1:03pm » |
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hi there
it's an under the dash job, but i'd have another look at that multi plug. are your lights (front and rear) still working?
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #6 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 2:19pm » |
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Thanks Scorpio_man. Yes all lights are working accept indicators. Even the nightlights in the dash.
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #7 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 4:00pm » |
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hi there
just had a thought, is all the dash lights doing their checks when you turn on the ignition? abs light, battery light, etc?
am i right in saying that all the things NOT working are on the ignition side (position 2 with the key)?
might be the ignition switch?
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #8 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm » |
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Hi Scorpio_man. Nothing in the dash works at any time it dosnt matter what position the key is in or if the engine is running or not. The only thing working at any time in the dash is the night lights when you switch on the main lights. Before I did not mention the auto dipping mirror is not powering on either. Do you know if there are any (inline) fuses any where! I will go out and fiddle with the iginition key to see if I can get any life out of it. Thanks for your guidence. Tim
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #9 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 5:29pm » |
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u can't run away from it... you need to rebuild your fuseboxes... and i can guarantee that all your problems will disappear...
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #10 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 5:49pm » |
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Thanks Wojtekor LOL LOL any chance of you emailing me you phone number for advice on how to go about it ? how much will it cost me ? Lots of questions ?
Scorpio_man could be on to something. as everything not working is on the ignition side ? I took the cover of the steering colum but dont see anything abnormal ? Thanks for your comments.
Thanks Tim
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #11 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 5:50pm » |
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #13 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 7:58pm » |
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Thanks wojtekor will get a look. I am not great with computers so your help is much appreciated. Thanks Tim
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 8:14pm » |
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #15 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 8:48pm » |
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Hang on!! Dont go ripping your fusebox out yet!!
I'm pretty sure Scorpioman's on the button with the ignition switch, the ignition switch has about a foot of loom with it then it has a multiplug connection under the dash, easy to replace or even plug in another one just to try it.
If you pm me your address I'll send you another ignition switch to try, just a matter of plugging it in and turning the switch with a screwdriver to try it.
Just another wee thought, remove the multiplug from the rear of the headlight switch then see if the ignition lights come on
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 9:03pm » |
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this might not be a bad idea although i don't believe that it is a matter of the switch... but sure it's worth a try and if it doesn't work [most likely] then you'll have to rip out those fuseboxes.
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #17 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 9:16pm » |
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on Apr 1st, 2009, 9:03pm, wojtekor wrote:| this might not be a bad idea although i don't believe that it is a matter of the switch... but sure it's worth a try and if it doesn't work [most likely] then you'll have to rip out those fuseboxes. |
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All the evidence points to the ignition switch as the first point to check (and the easiest)
Replacing the fusebox is WAY down the faultfinding line at the moment 
Indeed I've never heard a fusebox give this particular problem.
Can you explain your reasoning as to why you dont expect the ignition switch to be at fault and suspect the fusebox(es)
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #18 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 9:47pm » |
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Highlander, sure, here's my analysis
on Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm, timduffy7 wrote:
the dash needles all died |
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usually suggests bad/faulty soldering in the back of the dash which needs redoing
on Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm, timduffy7 wrote:
No lights in dash-nothing.
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suggests there's a problem with a fuse/relay or the fusebox in general
on Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm, timduffy7 wrote:
As well as dash not working Temp control readout, heater blower and Steering colum controls not working---no indicators no wipers Also no electric windows working. |
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fuse/fusebox/loom problem
on Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm, timduffy7 wrote:
No Dash no wipers no heater blower no eletric windows
the auto dipping mirror is not powering on either
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fuse/fusebox/loom problem
on Apr 1st, 2009, 5:19pm, timduffy7 wrote:
no indicators but THE HAZARD FLASHERS are working |
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indicators/hazard flashers switch problem
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So in the end if i was going to bet i'd say it's the fusebox or the loom.
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Re: Dead dash and windows & wipers
« Reply #19 on: Apr 1st, 2009, 9:54pm » |
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bad soldering, fusebox and a faulty idicator switch all failing at the same time?
Ignition switch failure covers all the faults
Ok whats the bet!! 
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