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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #21 on: May 26th, 2009, 3:33pm » |
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Hi Scorpio_man
Thanks for the link - the error code that came up is '57'?
Also just as an addition - Without starting the engine the dials all reset themselves again and the battery voltage is now 11.3v (previously 11.1v) measured at the dash board. Measuring the battery it is 11.76v, I will change the battery from the other scorpio I have and see what that does - maybe we can eliminate 1 problem.
Brian
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #22 on: May 26th, 2009, 3:40pm » |
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Brian the '5' is a strange anomaly and it should read 07 ie: HBC fault. If you go to the same link and look down the 'buttons' on the left you'll see one marked HBC test. Have a read and see how you get on. 
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #23 on: May 26th, 2009, 3:42pm » |
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Don't think anyone's mentioned the throttle potentiometer.Twice I have had a situation with my funeral limousines,albeit 12 valve engines,where the thing stops at road junctions and traffic lights,not too handy with mourners on board when you have to put it into gear at fast idle ! 
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NiceMan
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #24 on: May 26th, 2009, 5:35pm » |
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Automatic? Stall only idle? If onlyu idle... cleenm that whjat i say =)
What is battery volt when car no run? Use multimeter...
12 is empty
12.8 is full
12.5 - 12.7 is normal when not drive long way.
Code "57" is same than "07"
My come 57/07 and 03 ...
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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #26 on: May 28th, 2009, 3:29pm » |
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Latest update.
I have tried another battery which seemed to cure the problem of the dash resetting so I took the old battery to our local battery place who tested it and found that it was well on it's way out so I bought a new one. I have been running arround with the car today to see that all is ok. The dash reset problem has now gone away and the car does not stall when it is out on the road but it does stall almost every time once just after it has been started for the first time when it has been left for a while. It was ok the first time but then the choke would hsve been on this morning? I will have a look at the idle control valve next - if I can find it.
Thanks again for your Help
Brian
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scorpio_man
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #27 on: May 28th, 2009, 3:45pm » |
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hi there
well it looks like it is two issues.
re the idle valve, you need to take the 24v engine cover off. it's then towards the rear l/h side of the engine, iirc.
take note of which way the multi plug is facing as it can go back on the wrong way.
clean it out with carb cleaner and work the piston with a little light oil.
hth
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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #28 on: May 28th, 2009, 6:25pm » |
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Hi All,
I have cleaned the valve and added a drop of light oil. There was some dust in it but it didn't seem too bad or sticky. Started the engine and it started first time with no hesitation. All was smooth untill the fans switched on but it immediately recovered to a smooth tick-over again at about 750 rpm. It was fine for another 10 seconds and then it died. Restarted and it's perfect. Left it for 30 minutes and this time, the dash reset itself but the voltage is 12.7 volts so I don't think we can blaim the battery this time. I suppose that means it is an electrical fault perhaps. Will this car ever work propperly I think I need to think about it some more!!!!
Brian
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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #29 on: May 28th, 2009, 6:38pm » |
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One last thing. I checked the ODB II and there are still no error codes, other than 0000.
I am not sure what the Climate control reset has to do with anything? It comes up with error code 00 and then changes to 57. Pressing the Cooler button changes this to 50 and pressing the hotter button changes this back to 57. The air conditioning system seems to work fine, including the blower.
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NiceMan
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #30 on: May 28th, 2009, 7:48pm » |
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57 code is same than 07 ... i come it too and 03 too... i plan make new cabel to that too.
Can you test fuel pressure?
But i want say one time more... Clean again Valve... Take only that solenoid out vere cabel go, Them keep it hole up and put cleaneroil inside and push that in/out some soft things..(I meen that metal inside... Sorry my english...)
Put so much cleaner and its come full, them wait one minute, take clean white paper and put solenoid hole to down, press some time that metal in/out(That waht control valve).
If coem dirty to paper put cleaner again inside... etc...
Make that so many time at out come only clean oil/cleaner.
My that idle valve stuvk sometime but after clean its start smooth.
If this not help look Cabel... this is second and normal problem on 24v... CAbel inside motor and cabel what go to Ecu... My 24v cabels is broke...
Look links before where is some photo my 24v projekt.
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Highlander
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #31 on: May 28th, 2009, 9:44pm » |
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What rating of battery did you get?
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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #32 on: May 28th, 2009, 9:48pm » |
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72 Amp/hr
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #33 on: May 28th, 2009, 9:55pm » |
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What is the CCA figure? just making sure its got the correct capacity for a 24v, it needs a big un 
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #34 on: May 28th, 2009, 10:00pm » |
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Did you check and see if it still stalled with the aircon off?
remember the aircon will be on as default when you start the car even though the light is off, you will need to switch it off
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #35 on: May 29th, 2009, 6:29am » |
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maybe you have a faulty dis pack giving you a spark to start then cuts out so car stalls you must have a problem in the fueling or hi tension circiut ie spark to the plugs
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BrianC
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Re: 24v keeps stalling
« Reply #36 on: May 29th, 2009, 7:32pm » |
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The aircon makes no difference, on or off, it still stalls but I have made a new discovery.
As there are plenty of volts in the battery and charging system all the time to keep the dash from resetting, I decided to try and follow the power supply that is dropping below the 10 volts causing a dash reset. It all goes through one of the 7.5 Amp fuses marked as 'Electronics' (17) in the central fuse box. While in there I noticed that one of the heated rear screen relays R5 was warm. It is energised all the time, regardless whether the switch is on or the ignition is on. There is no light on in the switch. I am now beginning to think that perhaps there is a problem in the central fuse box, probably with corrosion and/or damp. Does my reasoning making any sense?
Still working my way through the problem and will report back if I find anything else!!!
Brian
ps Thank you for all your suggestions
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wojtekor
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r5 is for interior lights! there's an error in the UK manual saying it's for the rear screen!
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