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tiff
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Ok I went to see a Scorpio Ultima Estate at the weekend and agreed to buy it, but the HPi report the garage have done shows it as Cat C.
This is due to someone going into the rear and cracking the back bumper. This was done through the insurance and consequently deemed uneconomical to repair 
Are they in general harder to insure?
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #1 on: Nov 16th, 2009, 5:08pm » |
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They don't cost and more to insure, they are just worth slightly less on the 2nd hand market.
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #2 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 4:53pm » |
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As its a scorpio the differance in price will be very small 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 7:07pm » |
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No difference at all, our Galaxy and mondeo are both Cat C, and as they are minor damage and inspected anyway the insurance company could not give a fig...
Chances are there was virtualy no damage to the Scorpio. Although bumpers can explode into a bazillion pices if somone sneezes on them ( not like a good solid sierra bumper  )
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tiff
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #4 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 9:54pm » |
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yeah good old Sierra's lol
well have another to see this weekend so will see.
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tiff
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #5 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 8:53am » |
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dealer mailed me today, to say car has slight 'cattle grid' shake when coming to a stop when car is cold.
didn't do this when I drove it, but he thought he'd let me know. It's only done it once to him
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #6 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 9:00am » |
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I take it that you know what this is and have read THIS ?? 
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tiff
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #7 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 9:59am » |
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so I can assume then that the torque converter is shot? not even a box oil and filter change will fix than then?
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #8 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 11:00am » |
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on Nov 18th, 2009, 9:59am, tiff wrote:| so I can assume then that the torque converter is shot? not even a box oil and filter change will fix than then? |
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I don’t think you should assume what the dealer describes as “slight 'cattle grid' shake when coming to a stop when car is cold” is the same as the “Cattle grid effect” as described on the site. It’s just a description & not necessarily connected.
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tiff
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #9 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 11:20am » |
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it didn't do it when I drove it and it was driven for 1st time in months then. ho hum.
Dont wish to buy then have probs with gearbox 
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #10 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 12:05pm » |
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latest from the garage
" have spoken with the customer and he withdrew the claim as the repair estimate was £1***, thus writing the vehicle off. It would appear that he spoke with my business partner about an inspection, to verify the chassis plate and he was told by my business partner (David) that he would deal with it, it would have been nice to have been informed!! The car has been MOT’d by us yesterday and passed, where we looked at the rear floor etc and to “my eyes” there is no obvious damage to the floor. I am unable to remove the “Cat C Marker” unless the vehicle has a replacement rear panel and bumper. I think this is something you should consider, before going any further.
I for my part, am considering advertising the vehicle on Ebay, with the “Cat C” mentioned and selling the vehicle for a reduced price."
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #11 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 6:34pm » |
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Save him the bother and make a "reduced" offer on his original asking price
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #12 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 9:51am » |
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whilst it's not a new car, I'm stepping away from it....
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #13 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 10:19am » |
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Good decision.
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He was trying to goad you into buying it - i.e. buy it now or someone else will!
To be fair though, I couldn't care less about a cat c marker on a car under £2k.
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #14 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 11:04am » |
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that's fair enough. I saw the mot advise sheet and that plus the gearbox potential issue made me decide
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #15 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 11:10am » |
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I've bought a few Cat C and D vehicles, it doesnt take much to write a Scorpio off on a cat C or D, a couple of light units or a bumper will do it
Has it been repaired?? It will need to be to pass the inspection.
The "cattle grid" he describes sounds like it could be wishbone bushes or discs, nothing serious.
Definitely nothing to suggest a gearbox problem.
Go for it but at a cheap price, Scorpios arent worth much so a Cat C is a good lever to get it for less
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #16 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 11:32am » |
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rear panel bent underneath so not repaired.
fair amount of corrosion underneath too.
I expect it will appear on ebay soon
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #17 on: Nov 19th, 2009, 12:05pm » |
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Personally, I would look around for another one.
As Stuart (Highlander) says there are plenty around cheap, and from what you've said about it I know for a fact Stuart and others on here have broke up better ones !!
HTH Dave
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #18 on: Dec 21st, 2009, 12:48am » |
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well having reviewed my situation, I;ve called off the search for one for a while.
maybe again inthe future sometime
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Re: Cat C.....
« Reply #19 on: Dec 21st, 2009, 9:28pm » |
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Tif,
the trouble is now that finding a "good one" with low mileage is nigh on impossible as most Scorpios were bought initially for the fleet market and had a good mileage on them before being thrust onto the second hand market. Who know though, I hope I am wrong!!
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