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L6ENY
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Hi Folks, Heater only warm if that  temp needle in middle but very little warm air coming out, anybody think this could be a 30sec fix  or a long haul? Matrix? any advice appreciated. Cheers Len.
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Scorpio_Mike
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Re: Heater
« Reply #1 on: Sep 19th, 2010, 7:19pm » |
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You can try flushing the matrix but sadly it sounds like the matrix could be blocked and the only real cure is to replace it.
Unfortunately, when Ford designed the Scorpio, they seemed to have started with the heater matrix and built the rest of the car around it
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Re: Heater
« Reply #2 on: Sep 19th, 2010, 8:30pm » |
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.... Len have you tried resetting the doors/flaps of the heater/airco system? After a while they can become disoriented & stuck halfways and partially block the mix & airflow.
Remember, the heater matrix is always full ON and included in the cooling system; the flaps/doors regulate the air temp and flow so...
There is a drill on the website; I will look it up for you in a minute... it is applicable to models with the Semi Automatic Temperature Control - SATC option (also called Climate Control - CC):
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ccreset.htm
BTW what model/ year/options?
HTH
Ray
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L6ENY
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Re: Heater
« Reply #3 on: Sep 19th, 2010, 11:36pm » |
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Thanks for the advice, Ray its a 98 facelift 24v estate will try that tomorrow and if that dont work will try flushing and if that dont work will put it in the garage until next summer just in case it is the matrix anyone know the best place to purchase one?
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L6ENY
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Re: Heater
« Reply #5 on: Sep 20th, 2010, 2:40pm » |
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OK! Done the resetting test, and its showing 07 heater blower control module fault code, but the blower is working fine, any thoughts guys?
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Re: Heater
« Reply #6 on: Sep 20th, 2010, 2:46pm » |
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... just reset it according to here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ccreset.htm
Procedure
1. Run the engine.
2. Turn the blower switch and the air distribution switch as far left as they will go.
3. Simultaneously press the buttons for "Recirculated Air" and "A/C" for about 10 seconds until the code"00" appears on the passenger side LCD.
4. Select code "50" using the passenger side temperature control switch.
5. Press the "Recirculated Air" button until the code "00" appears.
6. Simultaneously press the buttons for "Recirculated Air" and "A/C" for about 10 seconds until the code "00" appears on the passenger side LCD. After this step the initialisation process is complete and the adjustment is finished.
There have been several TSB’s issued concerning the cc system. TSB 209/1995 talks of a fault code “03” continually flashing on the display indicating a faulty outside temperature sensor connected to a faulty ac module.
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How's the heat output now?
Have you heard the flaps/doors clicking and resetting?
Sometimes the resetting cycle needs to be repeated... and suddenly the codes disappear.
It is worth taking off the display panel (flips out with a thinbladed screwdriver over a piece of plastic to avoid scratching) and spraycleaning the two potentiometers. Replace the lightbulbs while at it!
Since it also has a tiny air-sucking motor for the temp sensor in it it will collect dust over time.
Works for me...
Ray
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Re: Heater
« Reply #7 on: Sep 20th, 2010, 5:51pm » |
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heya lenny
i know craig was having problems with the heater to, he tried the reset and the flushing, the matrix have a habit of falling apart inside and clogging the water ways
its a dash out job to change it but the hardest bit is trying to get the water pipes back on!
if your ever in the bham area with it again give craig a bell and i'll come over with the FDS and check the electrics of it
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L6ENY
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Re: Heater
« Reply #8 on: Sep 20th, 2010, 6:54pm » |
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Matt, Appreciate that, teach me to buy a scorp in the summer dont know if I could do this matrix though, looks complicated, lets just hope its a very mild winter Cheers Guys for help, Len
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Re: Heater
« Reply #9 on: Sep 21st, 2010, 8:39pm » |
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ive done one and didnt enjoy it lol
as i said before its a full dash out job
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Re: Heater
« Reply #10 on: Sep 21st, 2010, 9:53pm » |
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on Sep 20th, 2010, 6:54pm, L6ENY wrote:| lets just hope its a very mild winter |
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like last year??
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Re: Heater
« Reply #11 on: Oct 7th, 2010, 7:49pm » |
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Hi Folks, Crazy question has anyone put non bio washing powder in the cooling systm? well I did just over a week ago used the car everyday done about a hundred miles, still zero heat coming out so back flushed it today loads of gunge  refilled the system loads of heat , this heater was throwing no heat out until today, its like brand new
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Re: Heater
« Reply #12 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 3:46pm » |
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A-ha!!
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Mike H
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Re: Heater
« Reply #14 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 5:12pm » |
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Interesting!
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L6ENY
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Re: Heater
« Reply #15 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 6:40pm » |
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Hi Guys, Ray dont think it makes any difference as long as its non bio (Persil) i put two large cups in the 24v worked a treat Len.
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Re: Heater
« Reply #16 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 7:08pm » |
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I’ve tried that as well as many other methods. They usually work for anything between a few days & six months before the bits of plastic bung the matrix up again. Let’s hope it lasts for you.
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Re: Heater
« Reply #18 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 7:57pm » |
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Thats what was in the cupboard serious the reason is non bio is less suds,  dont know if it will last, but as warm as toast at the mo
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Re: Heater
« Reply #19 on: Oct 11th, 2010, 3:57pm » |
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Keep us posted!
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