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Stes Ultimatum
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No reverse 2.3 auto. Update !
« on: Oct 1st, 2010, 7:17pm » |
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Just dropped the wife off,
selected reverse the car moved & then a thud
no reverse 
The car drives ok
Wot's up ??
Thanks Ste.
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #1 on: Oct 2nd, 2010, 8:11am » |
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hi there
have you checked the level of the gearbox fluid?
hth
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #2 on: Oct 2nd, 2010, 10:25am » |
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Hi,
I checked & topped up the other morning!
As I said i selected reverse, the car moved & then there was a thud
The car drives ok with no noises just no reverse
The engine just revs !
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Mike H
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #3 on: Oct 3rd, 2010, 6:34pm » |
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Sounds like something's broke (?)
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Dave2302
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #4 on: Oct 3rd, 2010, 7:16pm » |
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Check to see if u got engine braking in position 1, if not then it's busted the rear band. Strip down and rebuild time 
HTH Dave
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Mike H
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #5 on: Oct 4th, 2010, 4:48pm » |
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Or working 2nd hand box (?)
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #6 on: Oct 6th, 2010, 4:50pm » |
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on Oct 3rd, 2010, 7:16pm, Dave2302 wrote:Check to see if u got engine braking in position 1, if not then it's busted the rear band. Strip down and rebuild time
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Just took the car for a run & no engine braking,
The car will just coast to an almost stop, then the auto creep
Thanks steve. 
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #7 on: Oct 6th, 2010, 4:54pm » |
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I have a spare 2.3 box I can drop off in Cheshire sometime for a coffee and some biscuits 
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #8 on: Oct 6th, 2010, 5:20pm » |
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on Oct 6th, 2010, 4:54pm, Highlander wrote:| I have a spare 2.3 box I can drop off in Cheshire sometime for a coffee and some biscuits |
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You got mail !
Steve
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Mike H
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #9 on: Oct 7th, 2010, 6:56pm » |
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Good diagnosis from Dave there, so it am heading in the direction of the Pearly Gates ~ or trying to 
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #10 on: Oct 7th, 2010, 11:21pm » |
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Oily gates ?
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #11 on: Oct 8th, 2010, 11:25am » |
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His description was perfect, it happens not lots, but quite common, rear band selects reverse with direct clutch, and also gives engine braking in 1 with forward clutch.
Therefore if no engine braking and no reverse, and a clunk just before it lost reverse its done the usual and broken the rear band
If the box was good before this happened it will make an easy repair.....
Give the old box to Stuart, and when he gets around to coming up here, I'll repair it then he's got another good 2.3 box to keep someone running !!
Cheers Dave
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #12 on: Oct 8th, 2010, 1:31pm » |
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Well I don't know about it being a good box,
It had the catle grid at around 70mph, I thought it was the prop till I read about it !
Since the rear band has gone the vibration has almost gone ?
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #13 on: Oct 8th, 2010, 7:28pm » |
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Cattle grid is more of a converter issue than gearbox, but if box is built well, it seems to keep it at a minimum
Cheers Dave
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #14 on: Oct 8th, 2010, 8:38pm » |
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ive got a couple of spare cossie boxes if you fancy upgrading the internals, plus im doing a trip to Cheshire Sunday anyway! can throw one in the back for £30
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #15 on: Oct 8th, 2010, 10:28pm » |
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Thanks Matt,
Stuart is sorting me one out for next weekend !
Cheers Ste
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #16 on: Oct 9th, 2010, 4:28pm » |
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on Oct 8th, 2010, 1:31pm, Stes Ultimatum wrote:Well I don't know about it being a good box,
It had the catle grid at around 70mph, I thought it was the prop till I read about it !
Since the rear band has gone the vibration has almost gone ? |
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As an experiment could try driving it with the MAF sensor unplugged, see if it helps? But I'd wait until the "new box" is in, not worth it at the mo.
FWIW for ages I thought my box was seriously sick, then I put a brand new MAF in, honestly was like getting a brand new autobox!
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto
« Reply #17 on: Oct 10th, 2010, 12:52pm » |
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Yes, true Mike, Maf on most Fords has a significant effect on Autobox, also TPS. In fact anything that affects running of engine will affect a PCM controlled autobox on most cars.
Dave
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto update
« Reply #18 on: Jan 28th, 2011, 11:00pm » |
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Well Stu dropped off the box back in september !
Now the weather is a bit warmer, I thought I do the box swap.
I bought a new filter of eBay & got the fluid with mercon V.
So this afternoon got the car up on the ramps & the back end on stands
I've got as far as ready to undo the bellhouse bolts to drop the box,
Everything has come undone with no probs except one of the studs snaped on the exhaust between the flexy & the front box 
Easy repair. 
I have took the sump off to empty the fluid, wow what a messy job that is !
Let's say good job I put some plastic down !
The oil was black ! & there was a lot of sludge on the strip in the sump.
Tomorrow I'm going to put the new filter on the replacement box
I'l take some pic's to.
Steve.
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Stes Ultimatum
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Re: No reverse 2.3 auto. Update !
« Reply #19 on: Jan 29th, 2011, 10:51pm » |
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Not done much today
Got the box out,
don't know if the engine or the gearbox has been out before ?, because the top 6 belhousing bolts were hand tight ! 
Took some pic's
The broken stud,
The front box is looking a bit rough, but the rest of the system is solid !
Home made transmission jack adapter 
The sludge from my box sump, when i moved the tub i used to drain the oil into it looked metallic when the sun was shinning on it !
The replacment box from stu (Highlander)
Nice clean oil out of the replacement box
New filter
Hopefully i will get it back together tomorrow 
but I'm not in a rush
As soon as the box is in, i will empty the cooling rad of the metallic oil !
Steve
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