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Oil in coolant!
« on: Oct 15th, 2010, 2:58pm » |
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Hi All. my 2-3 16 valve 98 estate is showing oil in the coolant, mileage only 152.000. Its a lovely car and fabulous ride. i have a 2-9 as well, but the ride is definitely harder on that,
On the 2-3 i did the head gasket 3 years ago, and an awfull lot of welding to keep her going for a long time.
Anyway any advice appreciated, it can only be head gasket i guess, because this is so soon could that mean a distorted head? it's not too bad a job, and i would do it again to keep the car on the road, the car runs fine, but will give it a compression test at the weekend, i dont think there is anywhere else oil can come from, or is there?
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #1 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 3:53pm » |
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oil in coolant wont show on compression test.
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #2 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 3:59pm » |
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No i realise that, but it may well give an indication of the condition of the head gasket.
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #3 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 4:01pm » |
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has your intake manifold cracked? the 2.3's have known issues of cracking the heads when this happens, otherwise what type of head gasket did you use when it was replaced?
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #4 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 4:06pm » |
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Thanks Matt. yes i have had problems with intake manifold and replaced this, and it was a nightmare! but did not think it had oil flowing through it! am i missing something here?
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #5 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 4:15pm » |
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the intake doesn't have an oil supply, where it bolts to the head between cyls 2 and 3 is the oil feed to the head (through one of the head bolt holes) on the intake side, it seems that when the intake goes and water is lost localised heat build up cracks the head on the oil way and allows the oil to flow into the water system down into the block
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #6 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 6:32pm » |
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Thanks Matt, Are there any links or diagrams to this fault or more info please, sounds a bit more serious, does this mean a new cylinder head? compression test may ge good in spite of this possible fault!
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #8 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 7:16pm » |
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Scorpio_man's link shows the crack location and as you have stated no this crack wont show up with a compression test
a specialist may be able to drill and weld up the head but it would be cheaper to find a second hand unit, the head off a 2.0 16v will go on, it just ups the compression a tiny bit
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #9 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 7:42pm » |
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Thanks very much guys. when i look at the picture of the face where the inlet manifold fits,would i be able to see any crack through one of these inlets between the valve ports? I bought the head gasket kit from an MDC center, that was before i snapped the stat housing off the manifold trying to replace the stat!
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #10 on: Oct 15th, 2010, 7:46pm » |
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hi there
when mines went, you could see the crack with the head off the block, holding it at an angle.
it was 'inside' the bolt hole.
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 17th, 2010, 11:54am » |
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Thanks Scorpio Man. Did you replace the head or get it repaired, if you replaced it did you use 2 3lt 16v or a 2lt 16v,
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #12 on: Oct 17th, 2010, 2:14pm » |
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Hi Bob,
please have a read of my story:
on Sep 25th, 2010, 9:23pm, ADroste wrote:
I would like to contribute final information. After reading several posts in different forums, I accepted the diagnosis "cracked head". Motor specialists warned me to fit a new head to a high mileage motor. So I looked for a new motor. I was lucky and found exact the same motor as mine, but with just 30k miles for 400,-€.
Because I have no access to the required tools, I tasked a garage to do the exchange for me. 900€ incl. VAT 
Since three days the beast is back on the road. Still very little signs of rust, smooth gear changes, working lambda probe and cat and with all the nice features of a fully equipped Ultima I hope I can further run it for some time.
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It began here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action= display;num=1278780690
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Re: Oil in coolant!
« Reply #13 on: Oct 17th, 2010, 4:59pm » |
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Armin. many thanks for your reply, i found it all very helpfull. so many similarities to my problem, which started with a cracked inlet manifold around the stat housing, Glad you managed to find another engine, i my not find one,(without the same problem!) at the moment i am thinking maybe to get it welded by a spacialist, in the hope that it won't happen again, but i will have a look when i get the head off. Thanks again for your help,
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