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Daniel_Duese
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #20 on: Feb 12th, 2011, 4:20pm » |
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1) The starter-motor doesn´t turn. (I can bridge it, but if the immobiliser is activ the engine get no petrol)
3) The EEC-V is riveted and the CCM was on top, before i start my work.
4) I will search the orange relay or what on monday...
When i understand your post right, than it is´t available to override the PATS..., right? (because of the self-check, or can i simulate this check?)
Next informations i will write tomorrow or on monday.
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Cosray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #21 on: Feb 12th, 2011, 5:31pm » |
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Daniel,
I am at risk of overburdening you with tech detail since this is taking a long explanation - if your startermotor is not turning it means PATS is active (which by now you know is a system, not a module) has activated inhibitor K94 relay, has definitely caused the EEC-V/PCM to de-activate the INJectors so your engine is NOT going to run.
It can be one tiny wire or a whole loom or sensors or what. Best to get the Gelbe Seiten out and call for a local Autoelektriker mit Scorpio-Erfahrung.
From here a good solution is nearly impossible, because of the chance of a multitude of hidden faults in your car.
Ray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #22 on: Feb 13th, 2011, 4:35pm » |
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Daniel Bitte senden Sie mir eine Email; hab' vielleicht 'ne Lösung. Einfach klicken auf meiner Name oben links.
Grüsse
Ray
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Daniel_Duese
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #23 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 8:52am » |
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E-mail ist gestern abend noch raus gegangen, danke.
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #24 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 12:36pm » |
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Have we mentioned this page?
So it looks like code '2:4'
The PDF at: http://sc.an-d.cz/PATS.PDF no longer exists. Did anyone save a copy of it?
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #25 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 2:02pm » |
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I am interested, too...
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Cosray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #26 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 2:11pm » |
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http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm
This is the page with basic codes. His code reads like a mismatch between keys-ID and EEC-V storage.
You'd need a WDS2000 to read the proper code, set it and release the syetem.
Ray
PS I have those 3 .pdf's on PATS -should anyone want them send me a PM
Ray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #27 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 8:50am » |
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on Feb 12th, 2011, 4:20pm, Daniel_Duese wrote:
4) I will search the orange relay or what on monday...
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Looks like this HERE: http://bit.ly/f00hnm
HTH
Ray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #28 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 4:03pm » |
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I got a question:
Today i have looked at another scorpio:
It is a Scorpio 97´ with an 2,3l engine with an automatic gear box.
Can i take parts of the 97´ and fit them into the 95´ 24v?
The electric-units and the transceiver with the working keys? (there is a red master key, too)
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #29 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 4:54pm » |
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Daniel, please what are you smoking? 
Ray
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #30 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 6:00pm » |
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said the man of netherland...
I think the immobiliser-system is the same, or not?
I can´t use the engine unit, of course.
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Re: May be immobiliser
« Reply #31 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 6:31pm » |
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Daniel,
if you carry on like this I am afraid you are wasting your and Precious Forum Resources to the hilt and we would need a hefty donation off of you... look - we are all happy volunteers and patching € 200 cars together is not what we aim here for IMHO.
Ray
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