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The Rooster in the Scorpio.
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My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« on: Feb 15th, 2011, 3:26pm » |
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Hi to you all out there. I am about to have the original(and only one that came with the car)remote re-manufactured by the guy in Ambleside that advertises on E'bay.
In the meantime I had aquired another that allegedly worked !!?, just before it went into a Jiffy Bag!!!.
I have attempted to re-programme it using the info on the forum.I get the initial Bing then the second Bing but nothing after that & it will not function. It is beginning to drive me Bing Bong Nuts.
I then turned to the somewhat Odd!! method in the Scorpio Owners Manual. Apparently very simple,works-No!!.
Any bright but helpful input would be gratefully received & faithfully applied.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #1 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 8:16pm » |
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Hi Rooster - the website version is correct; forget other variants.
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/remote.htm and further
Ray
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #2 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 8:21pm » |
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We always reckoned that Ford deliberately put the wrong instructions in the handbook so that drivers would try and fail to reprogramme their remotes and then have to go into their local dealer and pay them to do it! 
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #3 on: Feb 15th, 2011, 11:51pm » |
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on Feb 15th, 2011, 8:16pm, Cosray wrote:
Hi Ray.Thank you for your reply.It landed just ahead of the one from Baz. I have followed that procedure as detailed in my help post. I suspect that the original one needs the button re-manufacture procedure carrying out,I am awaiting an address to send it out to by a return E'mail. The recently acquired one will not reprogramme either.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #4 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 6:54am » |
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I remember having read somewhere your repairman can also test/measure RF-output i.e. is it transmitting & receiving properly?
Since the device is re-coded and syncing with the car each time you press the button, optimum two-way comms must be assured.
When sending the fob to him do specifically ask for RF-testing.
Does the central locking perform all of its manual key functions properly: opening, closing, setting the alarm/flash twice, global opening & closing all windows + sunroof etc.?
Do the door-ajar lights on the dash function?
Are all timing functions on the car functioning? Interiorlights off, heated windscreen-off?
Looking for clues -
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #5 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 7:29am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2011, 3:26pm, The Rooster in the Scorpio. wrote:Hi to you all out there. I am about to have the original(and only one that came with the car)remote re-manufactured by the guy in Ambleside that advertises on E'bay.
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Well recommended !
I've just had mine done, well worth the money !
Steve. 
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #6 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 8:39am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2011, 11:51pm, The Rooster in the Scorpio. wrote:
,I am awaiting an address to send it out to by a return E'mail.
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The chap is Phillip Heap, 55, Castlefield, Ambleside, Cumbria LA22 9BQ. 
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #7 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 9:30am » |
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It's a bit of a dead area around the drivers side on my car, try holding the fob on the passenger side whilst programming.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #8 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 10:09am » |
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Hi to Ray,Simmo,Steve,Baz,Tompion & all of you that are behind the scenes encouraging me to keep persevering with this Scorpio equivalent of an ageing Grannie (no not the car,been there,done that etc.) Reading between the lines and most of the written ones the Financial & Moral dedication & Mental perseverance is a never ending (well sooner or later)road.
The "Tests/Confirmation signs are OK on the keys & the now NEW LOCKS all £170.00 worth.
The full test cannot be carried out because the Sodding Roof is inoperable & I don't want to go there yet. The Dead Lock,the lights out,the screens timers function but the heated rear screen night-time "locate me" light is permanently on once the ignition is activated.
The latest "I will function when I feel like"issue is the Triple Memory function,I get the confirmation tone by not consistently,therefore it has not registered.
I have resigned to the fact that I really must be nuts,I am currently chasing a late 97 24v Ultima Estate that needs some very definite money/unbridled passion throwing at it.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #9 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 10:41am » |
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on Feb 16th, 2011, 10:09am, The Rooster in the Scorpio. wrote: but the heated rear screen night-time "locate me" light is permanently on once the ignition is activated.
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I believe that's how it should be, both mine (rear & front screen) are permanently on when Ign is on as well.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #10 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 10:58am » |
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on Feb 16th, 2011, 10:41am, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:
I believe that's how it should be, both mine (rear & front screen) are permanently on when Ign is on as well.
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Ahhhhhh,so zee problem is the same!!!!!!!!but different. I have one that doesn't but should & one that should but doesn't.Oh my God where is the Chivas Regal & The Paracetamol.
I wonder if any one has created a "This is going to go wrong" list in a chronological order of likely failure??
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #11 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 11:18am » |
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Has the 'locate me' bulb blown in the one that doesn't ?
There is a very tiny bulb (led i think) within the body that is soldered in.
At one time both of mine never lit up, I swapped out the complete switches with known working ones and they both lit up.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #12 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 11:26am » |
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on Feb 16th, 2011, 11:18am, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:Has the 'locate me' bulb blown in the one that doesn't ?
There is a very tiny bulb (led i think) within the body that is soldered in.
At one time both of mine never lit up, I swapped out the complete switches with known working ones and they both lit up. |
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Hi Roddes. I must be honest that was my original thinking. So I bought two switches,a matched pair from the same car BUT not for my car!!!!!!!!!!,they were for the previous Grannie/Scorpio (Mk3). I have since taken a STIFF WHISKEY to calm down my enthusiasm to buy & booked an appointment at SpecSavers.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #13 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 12:15pm » |
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on Feb 16th, 2011, 10:41am, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:
I believe that's how it should be, both mine (rear & front screen) are permanently on when Ign is on as well.
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Actually there's lots of bulbs are on all the time with ign, like e.g. all the window control buttons.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #14 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 12:19pm » |
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Re reprogramming the key fob, mine has always worked as per owners book. Never failed yet 
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #15 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 12:48pm » |
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on Feb 17th, 2011, 12:19pm, Mike H wrote:Re reprogramming the key fob, mine has always worked as per owners book. Never failed yet
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Some do, some don’t.
With mine once it’s been registered with the car it doesn’t matter how long I leave the batteries out of the fob. It may need a few presses to get in phase, but doesn’t need reprogramming.
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #16 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 2:39pm » |
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The fobs were built using the early integrated flashmemories i.e. non-volatile memories. Compare those to your digital camera's memorycard.
You could keep those today with 2 -years' Christmaspics on but the early ones lost content over time: some quickly, some not. Also they were prone to malfunction after 10.000 flashes or less, that's 15 years of use twice a day.
HERE's a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #17 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 9:18pm » |
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rooster you have pm, bob
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #18 on: Feb 18th, 2011, 1:32pm » |
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My one needs the batteries to stay in to keep its memory. 'Least I thought it does. Hence the need to reprogram after renewing the batteries.
Although as there seems to be at least 2 different ways of doing it, it suggests to me the design was changed at some point, so could just be that the 2nd hand fob is incompatible (?)
Also, no joy if the unlock button doesn't work for some reason I would expect
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Re: My recently aquired remote will not programme.
« Reply #19 on: Feb 18th, 2011, 3:07pm » |
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Yes, i too observed there must have been design changes on the way and they were not always acccurately documented.
So it is a matter of trial & error. If they do not budge find a friend at Ford's who operates the WDS 2000 and he may sort it out for a bottle of Beaujolais
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