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Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« on: Feb 26th, 2011, 8:23pm » |
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Hi All. As you may or may not know, my scorpio, 2.0l 16v Ultima Auto, has been off the road since the middle of December thanks to the dreaded black ice. Thanks to rodders, I have put all the parts on but the problem was starting the car.
Once the fuel had reached the engine, she fired up, but is running like a bag of nuts and bolts. She is hunting like a pig most of the time, finding it,s way now and again,stalling, but it's not right.
I have noticed an exhaust leak, noticeable, at the manifold end and wondered if this was part of the running problem. Something else I noticed was that once the engine was turned off, one fan comes on and then the other a short while after!!!!! What the **** Help. It's my only car and not being able to go out is straining my relationship with the other half. Your solutions would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #1 on: Feb 26th, 2011, 9:52pm » |
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Clean the MAF 
Wiring loom
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #2 on: Feb 26th, 2011, 10:14pm » |
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Sounds like a broken cat and wiring loom and maf
Make sure the top loom is dry
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #3 on: Feb 27th, 2011, 2:44am » |
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Thanks guys. Have cleaned the maf already. Top loom seems dry. Will investigate the exhaust leak today if weather is dry. Will also check fuse boxes for dampness as Rodders suggests. Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #4 on: Feb 27th, 2011, 3:00am » |
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Is there anything else I should consider looking for!!!!!
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #5 on: Feb 27th, 2011, 7:59am » |
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Coil Packs can give faulty running. That is where I would be looking at.
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #6 on: Feb 27th, 2011, 11:45am » |
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Presume it worked OK before being laid up, so suspect most likely damp / corrosion in the electrics (?) Maybe a good soaking of WD40 might improve things.
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #7 on: Mar 1st, 2011, 12:17am » |
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I would agree with Snoopy, having had a coil pack progressively fail on my 2 litre the symptoms were very similar and the noise was appalling and the misfire and rough running was very similar to Lee's description.
Lee how do your spark plug tips look?
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 1st, 2011, 6:15pm » |
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Hi Geoff, Just removed spark plugs. All were quite sooted up and except for the back one, all were well oiled as well. Cleaned and put back. Will start car as soon as battery has charged!!! Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #9 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 5:32pm » |
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Started car today after some wiring repairs and the car does not want to run properly  .
It is hunting a lot, then evens out, then hunt's again even to the point of stalling, then it's difficult to start.
When the car is turned off, the fans keep going high then low and won't turn off
When the car actually stays on a even turn over, there is no or little power when you put your foot down and I mean foot to the floor and the car goes nowhere
What I've done.. Cleaned MAF, cleaned TPS, removed and cleaned plugs(quite dirty) swapped coil packs (lent to me by my local garage) checked all connections.
I am getting to the desperate stage. If only there were members closer that could give a hand. I don't know what to look at next. Any suggestions Dejected Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #10 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 5:32pm » |
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Oh and O/D light has started flashing 
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #11 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 6:52pm » |
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New parts was a loom? Re topic "loom wiring differences" Anything else?
If O/D is showing up it's deffo not happy, an OBD read might indicate what's not working, which will give you better clues to go by (?)
I'm also concerned by "oily plugs" [!]
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #12 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 8:55pm » |
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Hi Mike, My loom was completely broken, broken insulation everywhere so replaced with a 2.3 loom after doing the neccessary adjustments with the extra earth wire for the temperature sender, but the running is still no better.
The oily plugs I think is due to the rocker cover gasket slighly seaping. Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #13 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 8:57pm » |
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Sorry, no other parts replaced, just cleaned. Wierd thing is that until my untimely crash, she was running fine!!!
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #14 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:19pm » |
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Sorry. Air by pass valve cleaned, not TPS. 
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #15 on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:44am » |
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When you crashed was in damaged front offside?
I seem to remember Scorpioman having running problems after his Front OS bump that turned out to be EDIS unit or EDIS unit loom damage caused during the crash.
EDIS unit is behind the OS headlight in front of the coolant reservoir, screwed onto the inner wing.
If you bend the neck of the washer bottle out of the way you should see it.
The big green engine fan relay/wiring is down in that area too.
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #16 on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:51am » |
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Stuart, It was more or less head-on into a barrier. It went far enough to shatter the bumper into little pieces, both headlights, grill, bonnet bent over at the front and creased both front wings, hence no insurance claim. Where can I find the unit and check the wiring please. Thanks Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #17 on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:06am » |
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read my last post 
if the is wiring damage and you wiggle the wires when the car is running you may find it stalls or changes the engine running
Looks like this
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #18 on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:11am » |
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Thanks Stuart. Reading last post now with glasses on  . Will check as suggested tomorrow as I have a job interview today and do not want to go there with grease monkey hands. Lee
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Re: Help. Sounds like a bag of bolts!!!!
« Reply #19 on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 8:08pm » |
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It's all starting to come out now! 
Worked OK before bump, won't after. Splash....
Often thought that was a d*mn stupid place to put the EDIS module
Reckon you problee gotta have the whole lot out and give it a good check over
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