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shooshyneman
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Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« on: Jun 27th, 2011, 5:28pm » |
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Replaced the Battery last weekend, everything was normal except for drivers window that wouldn't one shot up. Then the "Mrs" says she can't drive it with the seat so far back. It wont move,up or down forward or back, but the lumbar support works. Then the window fixed itself but the seat wont. Pressing the memory button alters the mirrors but not the seat. Passenger side is fine so is fuse 6. Any Ideas
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2011, 8:02am » |
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Check the connections under the seat and just for luck try fuse 43 in the auxillary fusebox as that controls the heated seats. May be a link?.
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2011, 11:53am » |
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Looking at the diagrams F14 is mentioned for manual cars but no harm in checking, F26 is also listed, this is shown as power window front in the handbook.
The fact your one shot window didn’t work is probably a red-herring as they have to learn/be taught where the limits of travel are before they work.
In the handbook several fuses are wrongly listed or only show part of what they do so checking all fuses may be worth trying.
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shooshyneman
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 4:43pm » |
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No other fuses gone that I see, as the drivers seat is down its going to be difficult to remove so will try later
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 5:00pm » |
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Possibly the seat module under the seat?
They are prone to failure
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 6:40pm » |
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It shouldn’t matter that the seats down, you just remove the 2 bolts facing forward as shown on page 1 of the PDF
& tip the seat back to get at the plugs.
As the yellow seatbelt connectors are under there it says in the PDF you should disconnect the battery first. The plastic rear seat runner guards can break when you tip the seat back so unscrew them if you still have them fitted.
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/interior/seat/fseatassyhi.pdf
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 5th, 2011, 3:40pm » |
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When you find the right bolts the seat tips back ok. Now I take it the black plastic box is the seat controller.
had a quick look inside can't see anything untoward, can they be repaired or do I just look for another? Will try swapping it from the other car just to make sure that is the problem. Is there anything under here that sets off the airbag
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #7 on: Jul 5th, 2011, 3:44pm » |
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Yep the black box is the seat module.
Airbags : Possibly, disconnect the battery first just to be safe.
Diesel autos would be facelifts so may have the airbag in the side of the seat too remember 
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #8 on: Jul 6th, 2011, 2:27pm » |
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Didnt know that.
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 6th, 2011, 2:47pm » |
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Available as of February 98
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/revisions.htm
You might not have them but when you've got your chin resting on them while you're feeling around under the seat its worth being aware of them 
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shooshyneman
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #10 on: Jul 10th, 2011, 10:36am » |
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There is a warning sticker on the side of the seat says airbag but has a seatbelt warning picture (Pretensioner) I can't see anywhere one could deploy from, so presume (with care) there isn't one fitted.
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 10th, 2011, 11:05am » |
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hi there
they 'rip' out from the side panel of the side.
same with curtain airbags (on newer cars). they 'rip' out from the bottom of the headlining.
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #12 on: Jul 11th, 2011, 12:21pm » |
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Looks like there is an airbag there. Can't see it, but there are yellow wires going to the panel.
Exchanged memory module from other car and it now works, so it looks like I am looking for a memory module, has anyone got one spare?
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #13 on: Jul 11th, 2011, 10:06pm » |
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What does it look like? Are there numbers you can read from it.
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #14 on: Jul 12th, 2011, 11:17am » |
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on Jul 10th, 2011, 10:36am, shooshyneman wrote:There is a warning sticker on the side of the seat says airbag but has a seatbelt warning picture (Pretensioner) I can't see anywhere one could deploy from, so presume (with care) there isn't one fitted.
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Bill, the easy way to tell is to check the VIN plate on the lower front windscreen, drivers side.
they mark the number of airbags on there so the fire brigade know what they're dealing with when they're cutting you out of the car
X 1 is the Drivers airbag
x 2 is Driver and Passenger
x 4 is Driver, Passenger and side airbags (as fitted on some but not all facelifts)
HOWEVER...
Bear in mind that many Scorpios will have experienced seat/interior changes you won't really know for sure without physically looking
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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shooshyneman
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #15 on: Jul 13th, 2011, 10:40am » |
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Stuart as always you know the easy way. Indeed it says x4 The memory module has 96GG-13C789-AC PROCS CNTL ASSY- SEAT printed on the plastic casing and F6RF-14A608-MC (PWB4949) SEAT MEMORY MODULE printed on the circuit board. (must learn how to post pictures!)
Cant see anything wrong with it. Is there a common cause of failure?
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Highlander
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Re: Replacement Battery kills drivers seat?
« Reply #16 on: Jul 13th, 2011, 1:00pm » |
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I don't think anyone has ever investigated Bill, they usually just get replaced but they probably can be fixed by some of our more electronically minded members?
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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