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pauldo
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I think my scorpio has died
« on: Jul 30th, 2011, 10:37pm » |
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I was driving back from town today and there was a tremendous rattling noise from under the car for about a mile then it lost power and just stopped it would not restart it just turned over very weakly. About 5 mins later plumes of smoke not steam poured out of the exhaust for about 7 mins. The RAC will deliver it to my local garage on monday so will get a diagnosis hopefully early next week.i am well p####d of as it has only done 50000 miles.
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #1 on: Jul 30th, 2011, 10:49pm » |
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Might be the cat collapsed and blocked the exhaust.
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pauldo
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #2 on: Jul 30th, 2011, 11:16pm » |
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thats a good suggestion as the noise sounded like an exhaust heat shield problem i had on a previous car. The RAC guy thought it was the head gasket but he also wanted to tow my automatic car
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scorpio_man
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #3 on: Jul 31st, 2011, 9:18am » |
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hi there
check and see if the 2 rubber tubes have blown off the egr valve. that would point to the cat/exhaust as being the issue.
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #4 on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 9:55am » |
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on Jul 30th, 2011, 11:16pm, pauldo wrote:| but he also wanted to tow my automatic car |
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What's wrong ith towing an auto?
As long as it's kept below 30mph and less than 30 miles in distance then it's no probs.
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Mike H
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #5 on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 7:43pm » |
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But supposing it isn't? 
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pauldo
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #6 on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 8:23pm » |
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Everyone has their own opinion but i would never tow an automatic.
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Mike H
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #7 on: Aug 4th, 2011, 6:40pm » |
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He's going by wot it sez in the handbook. But I wouldn't like to either....
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #8 on: Aug 4th, 2011, 7:23pm » |
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Towing means the gearbox will be turning internally without any oil as the oil pump is worked from the engine end I believe
So it should cause damage over time.
I once towed a 24v from London to Scotland on an A-frame at motorway speeds 60-70 all the way with the intenion of breaking it for spares anyway so wasn't really bothered about gearbox damage.
Got it home, decided it was too good to break, put it back on the road and its run fine ever since (5 years) and not a hint of anything wrong from the gearbox 
Dunno if i'd try it with some of the newer stuff though
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Mike H
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #9 on: Aug 4th, 2011, 7:27pm » |
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That's a good point about the pump not working, hadn't thought of that ~ but then again as you say if there's some oil about and also the gubbins aren't under load, can't be that bad
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #10 on: Aug 6th, 2011, 2:34pm » |
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Will the gearbox change gear under tow with engin off?
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PJDavis
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #11 on: Aug 6th, 2011, 6:27pm » |
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I would be asking 'The-Old-Bare-Footer' about towing an Auto-Box. He's the expert! 
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #12 on: Aug 6th, 2011, 8:28pm » |
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on Aug 4th, 2011, 7:23pm, Highlander wrote:Towing means the gearbox will be turning internally without any oil as the oil pump is worked from the engine end I believe
So it should cause damage over time.
I once towed a 24v from London to Scotland on an A-frame at motorway speeds 60-70 all the way with the intenion of breaking it for spares anyway so wasn't really bothered about gearbox damage.
Got it home, decided it was too good to break, put it back on the road and its run fine ever since (5 years) and not a hint of anything wrong from the gearbox
Dunno if i'd try it with some of the newer stuff though |
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stuart , was that my old motor? i miss that car 
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #13 on: Aug 6th, 2011, 9:22pm » |
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on Aug 6th, 2011, 6:27pm, PJDavis wrote:| I would be asking 'The-Old-Bare-Footer' about towing an Auto-Box. He's the expert! |
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Blimey PJ,are you saying he is devoid of clobber ?, must be that all consuming project of his 
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #14 on: Aug 6th, 2011, 11:49pm » |
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on Aug 6th, 2011, 8:28pm, rich1 wrote:
stuart , was that my old motor? i miss that car |
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No that was another one 
I disconnected the prop on yours before heading home.
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on Oct 17th, 2011, 12:35pm, Simmo wrote:| I give up ! Too much for an old boy! |
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Mike H
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Re: I think my scorpio has died
« Reply #15 on: Aug 9th, 2011, 12:22pm » |
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on Aug 6th, 2011, 2:34pm, MrJones wrote:| Will the gearbox change gear under tow with engin off? |
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Handbook just says put gear selector in position 'N' (?)
Assuming it's being towed on a rope with you steering etc., book also says ignition must in position 2 ("II") so steering wheel is not locked (!!!!) also brake lights and indicators will work.
Warning: steering is going to be very heavy without power assist, also possibly brakes efficiency.
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