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2.5 diesel non starter
« on: Apr 4th, 2013, 11:43am »
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Hi I am considering buying a 2.5 scorpio but the owner says that when you turn the key it will not turn over. He seems to think it may need a new starter motor. Is this a common fault or could it possibly be a relay or something else?
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #1 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 12:09pm »
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Oh and could the rear bumper on my saloon fit on the estate?
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #2 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 1:11pm »
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when the key is turned to start do the lights dim  ?that would indicate starter connected but could mean a siezed or otherwise broken engine and real big money-if no electrical response could be a pats problem where it thinks its locked and immobilised . i thappened to me once and the AA couldnt sort it nor could another guy who turned up to recover me and the local garage replaced a 20 amp fuse and all was well but they wouldnt tell me the fuse number they replaced
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #3 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 2:39pm »
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Ok talking to the seller it seems that it begins to turn over and then the starter starts clicking which hopefully narrows it down a bit.
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #4 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 2:57pm »
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One classic problem is a battery with insufficient charge to actually START the car as opposed to turning it over. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 4:33pm »
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Is it in Middlesbrough? Saloon rear bumper is different to Estate version.  
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 5:07pm »
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It is middlesbrough Scorpio have you seen it?  He says he bought a new battery for it in December
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 6:11pm »
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ive got a starter motor if needed
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 8:16pm »
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Andycan, i was going to see it this weekend, workload permitting. So busy at the moment. Still, ideal for spares though. After speaking to Ian yesterday it does appear to be a starter/solenoid fault but without seeing it in person I can only take the owners word whether it cranks over or not. Matt's offer of a starter is a good option to start with.
Also, as Simmo mentioned the battery on the VM has to be A1.  
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 9:05pm »
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 4th, 2013, 9:57pm »
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 16th, 2013, 4:19pm »
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Hi I am a new member I have 2.5 diesel scorpio p reg.Iam lock out  battery has been flat three
years I have the bonnet open any body can advise
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 16th, 2013, 5:03pm »
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the key should still unlock your car door and if you recharge the battery or put another one on everything should start working again but the computer will have to relearn how to run your engine smoothly which takes a short drive or on tickover for a while with a few revs now and again
 
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 16th, 2013, 10:24pm »
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it was my father's is there special way to program the keys
 
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 16th, 2013, 11:11pm »
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The key  should not need to reprogrammed unless you have changed the locks. Where are you we might have a member near you that could pop round and help if they are not too far away.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 16th, 2013, 11:12pm »
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Are you talking about the key or the remote?
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 17th, 2013, 9:00am »
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If you have the keys you should still be able to open the front doors or boot.
 
Being a p reg its 50/50 as to wether it has the pats system. Do the keys have ared square on the end of them?
 
Can you hear any relays clicking when fitting the new battery?
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 17th, 2013, 10:52am »
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Hi    Thank for replying. I have red key and key with red square in it, alarm is going when I fit new battery .
 I remember my father saying  there was process with keys in doors I cantn't
 remember what that was. There no relay clicks except the alarm
 
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #18 on: Nov 17th, 2013, 11:00am »
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Hi Matt when I put red key turn to the front , I hear three clicks in side car
 
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Re: 2.5 diesel non starter
« Reply #19 on: Nov 17th, 2013, 11:05am »
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Hi again this is special car it came straight from FORD it was test car for diesel engine
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