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Bobbit
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2.3 won't start
« on: Feb 10th, 2015, 2:01pm » |
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Hi guys,
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Started and used car yesterday, stopped at shop, when I tried to start it again it turned over very slugishly but eventually started.
Whent to start it this morning and all it does is click, I have had no needles flying round dials as is usually the case with a dead battery.
Put voltmeter on battery and it shows 12 volts, battery is about 1year old, headlights are very bright and do not go dim?
It is a 1996 2.3 estate.
Any help please
Cheers Bob
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Tompion
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #1 on: Feb 10th, 2015, 2:35pm » |
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Hi Bob
Might just be a bad earth or poor live connection at the battery or the starter solenoid. Check all heavy cable connections bearing in mind some stay live.
First try a jump lead from the battery earth to a good earth on the engine – if it is a poor earth that should make it turn over better.
Dave
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #2 on: Feb 10th, 2015, 3:19pm » |
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Hi tompion thanks for that, Tried the earth jump lead, made no difference, i will have to get underneath tommorrow and have a look at starter solenoid connections, have cleaned all battery connections.
Cheers Bob
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #3 on: Feb 10th, 2015, 5:28pm » |
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If it clicks, the solenoid is OK. It's probably a dirty connection on the brushes which is easy to fix. You just need a short piece of plastic pipe, the same diameter as the commutator when reassembling the brushes onto the end plate.
Cut a notch in the end so that you can assemble the brushes onto the end-plate and then slide the plate & brushes from the piece of pipe onto the commutator.
You can even do it without taking the starter out.
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Bobbit
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #4 on: Feb 12th, 2015, 5:18pm » |
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Hi Guys,
problem solved, it was a loose connection on solonoid, tightened and cleaned and all ok again.
Thanks for the help.
Cheers Bob
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Tompion
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #5 on: Feb 14th, 2015, 10:42am » |
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Thanks for letting us know Bob, glad you've sorted it 
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #6 on: Feb 22nd, 2015, 12:12pm » |
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Well here we are again 
Car will not start again, when you turn the key there is no clicking now, just nothing.
All dials and lights are ok and battery is fully charged.
Do you think it needs a new starter motor.
hope someone can tell me.
Thanks again
Bob
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Tompion
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #7 on: Feb 22nd, 2015, 12:49pm » |
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Assuming it's an auto have you tried it in neutral as well as park in case there's a problem with the start inhibitor.
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #8 on: Feb 22nd, 2015, 1:41pm » |
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hi Tompion,
No it is 5 speed manual box.
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Bob
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #9 on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 3:04pm » |
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Have you rechecked the connection?
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Bobbit
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #10 on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 3:22pm » |
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Yes all connections checked cleaned and tightened , still nothing when try to start. it all points to starter motor to me?
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #11 on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 5:15pm » |
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You could try giving it a tap with a hammer - you've got nothing to loose.
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #12 on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 6:58pm » |
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used two hammers no change.
i think its going to be a new starter
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Bob
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #13 on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 10:14pm » |
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You need to check that you. are getting 12v to the starter when you turn the key to start, small wire. You can also bridge the big terminals on the starter, BIG sparks, to see if it trys to start. If nothing happens with second option, starter dead. 
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #14 on: Feb 24th, 2015, 2:32pm » |
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Thanks for that a900one,
I am not up too well on electrics, I have a voltmeter , I put the red probe
on the solonoid small connecter but where does the black probe go 
still no sound at all when key is turned, just dead, all lights etc all ok.
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Bob
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #15 on: Feb 24th, 2015, 4:42pm » |
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Bob, put the other probe to earth/body of the starter.
Dave
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #16 on: Feb 25th, 2015, 2:39pm » |
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Hi guys,
Shorted two terminals out on starter motor, big flashes like a99 said, but nothing else, so it looks as if starter has had it .
What do you guys think.
Cheers Bob
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #17 on: Feb 26th, 2015, 12:20pm » |
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sounds like the starter then so you can either replace it or change the brushes and clean it out.
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Bobbit
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Re: 2.3 won't start
« Reply #18 on: Feb 27th, 2015, 5:42pm » |
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Hi guys,
Fitted new starter motor, car now running perfect.
thanks for all the help guys
Cheers Bob
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