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Facelift Keys
« on: Oct 1st, 2004, 6:51pm »
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Just had a couple of new keys made by our local locksmith (only one key with the car and not a Red one!).  His electronic box reported the system as PATS3 - SCP which does not have a Red Master Key but just needs two valid keys to code a new one.
 
Took some time as he had problems doing it but adamant it's a PATS3 system - not PATS2 as the handbook!!.
 
Anyone else had this?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 7:35pm »
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Pretty sure something like this has come up before...  sounds entirely possible for later cars. They were running production down so if the PATS2 units weren't available you'd get a later version. Guess they weren't going to re-print the handbook at that point either.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 10:45pm »
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Thanks Dave
 
Following your reply I've found a thread that says PATS3 after 98 1/4 MY.  Mine is from around then so that explains it.  There's also a note about a owner's handbook supplement - but I don't have one of these.
 
It'd be nice to have one car where the handbook relates to the actual vehicle  Smiley, my Probe's the same - late model car, early model handbook!!
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 1st, 2004, 11:03pm »
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Have a look at http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook.htm - I think the supplement you need is at the bottom of the page.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 2nd, 2004, 9:48am »
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Just reading this and wondered if Vulcan had got around to getting a spare key yet. As when i sold him the car it only had 1.It sounds to be not as expensive as previously thought. john.n Wink
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 2nd, 2004, 9:15pm »
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£90 for two keys!!!  Local Ford dealer wanted £100 for a master (when we though it was PATS2).
 
The £90 was at home so there was an extra £20 for mileage.  The guy spent as much time on his mobile putting off the RAC and AA who wanted him for lock-outs etc.  Must be a good living although the electronic kit is not cheap.
 
He had to wipe all the keys from the module Shocked Shocked then reprogram them in but now as have 2 I can do more myself.  At one time it had no working keys and he was struggling to get it to accept any new ones Shocked Shocked.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 2nd, 2004, 9:21pm »
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DAve
 
You're a star - thanks Wink Wink
 
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