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At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« on: Jun 8th, 2005, 3:48pm »
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Well,  
 
After waiting god knows how many years for a Scorpio I can finally say-I'VE GOT ONE!!!!
 
It isn't the Cosworth saloon I bought from a garage 2 weeks ago-that is still waiting for a waterpump that never showed up-the purchase has been cancelled and my deposit returned.
 
It is infact someone's from work who was p/x'ing it for a Jag today. I got to hear about it totally by chance on Monday, and 2 days later its sat outside my house  Grin
Result!!!!!
Its a 98 2.3 Ultima estate and it is fantastic! The car is huge which will be ideal for our mad summer camping holidays. Its even got a tow bar just incase we need a trailer for my OH's wardrobe!!! (Bless her)
 
I can finally stop coming on these boards and dreaming.......Now I'm a fully fledged member!  Grin
 
There are a couple of things that need sorting on the car so I look forward to posting for advice in the future....and hopefully contributing a little too.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 8th, 2005, 3:59pm »
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Great news Wayne  Grin
 
Sounds like you got a good 'un too.
 
Hope you have many miles of happy motoring  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 8th, 2005, 6:43pm »
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gald you got it sorted wayne hope to see you at a meet sometime
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 8th, 2005, 7:02pm »
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nice 1 wayne happy motoring in your estate  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 9th, 2005, 10:31am »
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Brilliant wayne try and post a picture of your new found  Roll Eyes Roll Eyeslove
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 9th, 2005, 11:33am »
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Cracking job Wayne, Nice motor, you dont say if its a manual or auto ??
 
I have the 2.3 manual ultima estate and I gota say its great, loads a poke when you need it yet reasonable fuel consumption, but watch out for those short trips or it will soon be down to 24v figures  Grin
 
One thing that swung it for me is the fact you can tow 2000Kg off the back of it and it still pulls like a train the saloon can only muster 1800kg from memory.
 
I have had nearly 3 ton hung off it in the past   NoNo Roll Eyes Wink and it really didnt appear to both it much OK it was only for a few miles though, mind you the fuel consumption never made it into double figures  Shocked
 
Oh yes and none of those nasty chain problems like the 24v  Grin
 
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #6 on: Jun 9th, 2005, 12:24pm »
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Thanks guys,
 
Its the auto.......think i was too excited when writing  Grin
 
The tow bar on mine is kind of a quick release one that i haven't quite fathomed yet. But as I haven't got a trailer  i'm in no rush to work it out.
 
What nasty chain problems?? Is that the cam chain I've seen crop up a few times on here? By that then I assume the 2.3 has a cam belt? Whats the recommended interval for changing the cambelt? I'm unsure if the guy before me had it done (Forgot to ask him) so I'll make plans for that in the not too distant future.  
 
The rear tyres need changing and the fronts will hopefully last till next year. I'm gonna change the engine oil/filter and the autobox oil/filter along with the air filter and give everything else a thorough check.
 
There is a strange "metallic" ish clicking when cornering to the right (see "problems" ) I'm unsure what it is but I wondered if it could be the self levelling suspension? Does this model have it? Previous owner mentioned it today when I told him, but he hadn't experienced it beforeHuh?
 
Fingers crossed its nothing major  Huh
 
Oh, and once I get my camera out i'll leave some pics  Wink
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #7 on: Jun 9th, 2005, 9:36pm »
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good luck wayne,
 
hope you enjoy the experience!
 
cheers,
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 9th, 2005, 9:50pm »
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Ahhhh another one find good hands, one yhing to do though wayne.
 
Put your wallet somewhere nearby and get it serviced.
 
i have a 98 2.3 ultima estate and tow a 22ft van with mine, no problems apart from fuel in the low 18s with the van on.
 
cracking car, never dissapoints, enjoy
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #9 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 8:44am »
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on Jun 9th, 2005, 12:24pm, waynem325 wrote:
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What nasty chain problems?? Is that the cam chain I've seen crop up a few times on here? By that then I assume the 2.3 has a cam belt? Whats the recommended interval for changing the cambelt? I'm unsure if the guy before me had it done (Forgot to ask him) so I'll make plans for that in the not too distant future.  
 
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Oh, and once I get my camera out i'll leave some pics  Wink

 
The 24v engines appear to suffer a fair bit with tensioner failer and results in one or both  chains jumping on the cams, its well documented on the FS site. The 2.3 still have chains on the cam but dont suffer from this.
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #10 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 7:53am »
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Thats pretty good to hear!
I prefer chains than belts.
Hopefully I'll get a full service in the next week or so and see exactly what the overall condition of the car is  Smiley
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #11 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 3:01pm »
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i know that
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.... about the chains .. i have a mate who used to work the parts counter at my local ford main dealer, he was sayin its recommended to change chains at around 100k Cry ... mines on 89k so a bit of time to spare Undecided .... is this right Huh .. he also mentioned the main dealer price Shocked ...... when i awoke and got up from the floor  Roll Eyes.i just looked at me empty wallet  Cry .... any advice / help appreciated
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #12 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 5:16pm »
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hi there
 
the chain shouldn't need replaced at any mileage. the 24 valve does have some issues with it's chain, but the 16 valve engines seems to be fine.
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 8:27pm »
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ok cheers .... weight off me mind ... Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 3:58am »
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The chain on my 2.0l was up to 250k when I sold her (sob)!
 
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 9:22pm »
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Thanks all-nice to know its built to last!
 
Eddie-250k is bloody impressive!!! A major confidence boost, though I have to admit that after spending the last few weeks on this site and seeing your replies to posts, or more importantly your avatar I'm still scared of ya!  
That pic is something i wouldn't want to see on a dark night!  Shocked Grin
 
(no offence meant  Wink)
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 17th, 2005, 12:04am »
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I belive that the problem is that the numptys designed the cam chain as one long chain, unlike the sensible people at Jag! (OOPS! they are Ford now as well) who used two chains, one for each cam.
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Re: At long last I've finally got me a Scorpio ;D
« Reply #17 on: Jun 20th, 2005, 2:04am »
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hi guys i have a 1995 24v and the engine has been replaced with a 98 24v. is it true that this engine has the uprated chain fitted? and when would it need replacing
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 3rd, 2005, 8:23pm »
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Bob,
The 24V Cosworth Scorpio engine has 2 cam chains, too - one on each bank.  The problem is most probably down to a weak o/s tensioner that drained overnight, allowing the chain to flop about briefly when started from cold, and battering the chain guides until the oil pressure came up.  I wrote all this up some years ago on http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/timingchain29cos.htm
 
The Scorpio DOHC engines also use 2 chains - one for the cams and a shorter one for the oil pump ancillary shaft.
 
Incidentally, Jaguar V8's also had trouble with a cam chain tensioner and had to revise them a few years ago.  Embarassed
 
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 27th, 2005, 1:30pm »
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Ta Eric
Lesson learnt.
 
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