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(Message started by: johnv on Feb 12th, 2005, 6:49pm)

Title: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 12th, 2005, 6:49pm
There is a "S" reg scorpio car on ebay cosworth a saloon car done only 68,000 miles.
The trouble is its the nice man from reading that's selling it.
Because of the way he descripes his cars. like a stunning car by far the best he ever seen, people bid like mad.
There are two days to go already there are 33 bids raising the car to £3100. I bet it will go to £4000 or something.
Some time ago one of these scorpios went to £4500 with days to go. and people bidding like crasz. I emailed him to say is this car really that good and he said no people where getting carried away.
I refer to him as the nice man from reading, because credit where it is due, he took the car off auction and relisted it. I presume he emailed the top bidders to say it was not worth that money.
He did not need to do that, I mean an auction is an auction.
My red saloon car 1998 2.3 reached £3300.01. (don't forget the penny).
But there was just so much wrong with it that he offered to take it back.
But I did not want to let it go as the body and inside was nice and it had done only 60,000 miles which is confirmed by how nice the engine and auto gearbox is.
So I asked him to pay for putting all that he did not declare right and he just turned around and gave me £1000 back so the car in fact only cost £2300.
But of course I had pay that money to have it put right.
So I paid out £1400 to have it put right and of course some of that was for service and new brake pads and discs all round which is fair ware and tare.
I not knocking this chap. like I say he always sees you alright, but if anyone on this site is bidding on this and wants a chat about what to exspect i will give you my telephone number.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 12th, 2005, 10:59pm
Wow,

anyone want to bid on an S reg silver Cossie with 65000 on the clock? I could make a good profit here!!

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by october on Feb 13th, 2005, 8:17am
hi .nobody makes you bid on ebay.paid a lot more for my scorpio ,3yrs ago,money not an issue,wanted it bought it.some die hard scorpio owners are not in it for profit.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 13th, 2005, 1:11pm
I paid £7000 for a 2.3 Estate. Some people give you a funny look when you tell then that.
But you have to realise that was three to four years ago and it had only done 47,000 miles and a NOVEMBER 1998  "S" reg. and like it left the factory inside and out.
Did not buy that on Ebay. And as part of sale they put two brand new tyres on it
This is the only car I brought that did not need anything doing to it.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 15th, 2005, 7:40am
well it went for £4501.50 pence. Madness gone mad. But I suppose if you want something bad you are pepared to pay that.
So I very cuffed that I paid only £3300. 01 for mine and for that price I recovered £1000 to have all new brakes back and front meaning steel discs and pads and brake fuild change the full lot.
Plus other work. Mine is the exact same as this car except that its got the 2.3 engine which i like better than the cosworth. Goes just as fast.
But I see that Madmanscorpio bid on that and was piped at the last second or two by just £1.50.
Its no good bidding like that, waiting till the last seconds, someone will always get in at the last second.
If I had know he wanted this car, I would have bid on it for him and would have got it, (well just as long as his highest bid was within the auction ends).
I not going to say how I bid but I always win my auctions as long as my highest bid is high enough.
Its impossible to lose.
I going to parkers now to see how much it really worth, but I bets there is lots wrong with it, just like there was on mine.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 15th, 2005, 7:53am
just been to parkers. God its only worth £2760 and that's if its in good condition, which I doubt very much.
It does say dealer price is £3240 but you then get the protection of the law around you.
With a private sale you don't. (well you know what I mean).
So it is in fact only worth the £2760.
I often said before, that these very low mileage cars command a much higher price than if they have done a high mileage.
I reckon that people who have got scorpio's with say 60,000 miles or so on them  in two years time will still get these sort of priices. but in two years time other cars will be worth about say £500. or thereabouts.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 15th, 2005, 9:43am
John,

a car (or anything for that matter) is only worth what people will pay for them. If for example, somebody was to use a Scorpio as the main car in a James Bond film or a succesful tv prog like Knight Rider or Magnum, where the car is the star, the prices would shoot up as a sought after, must have item.

Price is all relevant to the amount people are prepared to pay. I have always thought that these guides like glasses and parkers are all geared to you selling your car as cheap as possible to some dealer who then gives it a wash and bangs another £1000 on the price. It happened to someones mate on here not long ago, S reg estate sold to a dealer for about £2000. Dealer gives it a wash and puts it on autotrader for £4000!


Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 15th, 2005, 9:59am
yes agreed baz, its called supply and demand.
But insurance companies (well I think) all work to these sort of guilds as to decide how much you car is worth as to regards wether to write your can off or not.
Yes of course they work it to their best advantage.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Badboytunes on Feb 15th, 2005, 11:00pm

on 02/15/05 at 07:40:50, johnv wrote:
. Mine is the exact same as this car except that its got the 2.3 engine which i like better than the cosworth. Goes just as fast.




What have u done to urs to make it just as fast as a cossie?  :o :o :o

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 16th, 2005, 6:54am
nothing, i wonder if its because its only done 60,000 miles and therefore crisp and newish.
but don't forget i also got a 24v cosworth 1998 "R" reg thats only done near to 70,000 miles so i can compare for real.
but i also got a 1998 "S" reg estate that only done 60,000 miles, but its the saloon car that is real fast. i wonder if the extra weight of a estate lowers the performance down a little.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 16th, 2005, 6:57am
as you will have gathered, my own view on cosworths are they are all hot air.
yes they are fast but so are other cars with a 3 thousand cc engine in them or indeed a 2.3 engine.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Vulcan on Feb 16th, 2005, 8:55am
When I was looking for mine I knew I wanted a Scorpio just didn't have a preference for which motor.
Over the 2-3 months that I looked I tried all engine sizes and flavours privately and at dealerships and loved them all (well the metallic Pink diesel wasn't to my taste, it seemed to missing too many of the nice toys inside ;)).

Then I got a chance to test drive a 24v cosworth, to say I was blown away would be an understatement, it was streets ahead of all the other Scorps I had tried, the accelleration above 2000 revs with the o/d off and sport on was unmatched by any of the others I had tried.
As I said till this point I didn't know what I wanted, but this test told me I was going to buy a Cossie. I ddn't buy that particular one because of other "issues" but when I got the one I have now I wasn't disappointed.


Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 16th, 2005, 9:27am
A lot of stories abound

"Beware of SCAMBAY"

Captain

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 16th, 2005, 11:14pm
Whoa....steady on there....I sold my red one on EBay and bought the silver one I had now from there as well. Just got to know what you are doing. Remember a fool and his money are easily parted, which is why we all drive Scorpios!!

Baz

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 11:40am
someone said that no one makes you to bid on ebay auctions. Correct. But also no one makes any sellor give false details or leave out what is wong with it.. (i.e a wrong or incorrect discription.
If a sale is a very long way, away, you can decide to bid on it from the discription, you can also ask questions by email or telephone.
But at the end of the day, you arrive to collect the car and start finding faults, you can just walk away.if they have not been mentioned. Before anyone starts on to me, Its up to the sellor to give a correct and clear discription of the car.
To say like someone on ebay does on all his cars. (A stunning and by far the best exsample of the flagship car. I ever seen, (or words very close to this) and go on and on and on about how good the car is, when in fact it got lots of defects and is a bit of a wreck, is not right.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 11:45am
where's baz. o there he is.
But if you have discribed you red car you sold as a stunning exsample and the best scorpio any where around. there will not be a better one in existance. does 0 to 1000 miles per hour, in just on second and does 100 Miles per gallon you would have got maybe £10,000 for it.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 11:59am
On my 1996 2.0  I got off ebay,  done 130,000.
the power steering was leaking into the boot, it had just past its mot like that, (with the last owner). but the next MOT with me, the boot had gone soft and split.
Also drivers and tailgate lock gone and remote not working. You had to walk to passengers  side to unlock car.
But at £2460 I was well satisfied because of it un-marked condition inside and out.
So whats got wrong with it since I owned it.
The drivers door lock when and I was locked out but I was at home. All locks have now been replaced.
Igition lock when, replaced.
So apart from new tyres, and services, the cars going great.
The last owner did mention that he had hoped for more because it was listed in Parkers as worth £5500. but he was wrong and agreed when I pointed out to him that was for a car that had done 60,000 miles or less.
Like I said before a low mileage car is listed as double the price of a higher mileage, even when the condition can be about the same.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 12:17pm
So on the 1998 Cosworth done just over 60,000 miles the driver and tail gate locks where not working. but the passengers doors and the remote is OK.
Both door pockets broke where they fit onto the door. I have fixed them myself.
Both head lamp washes had been stolen,  so taped over with duck tape.
Nothing else except that three times, I had a little misfire
which you can detect as you drive but then it rights itself.
Because I had a bottle of catoclean in my garage, (yes got it off ebay). i put that in and waiting to see what happens.
At this time, it running great.
Mot time next month so going to have door locks replaced and see what mot throws up. so watch this space.
Payed £3701 which was just a few hundred pounds over the listed price. but i was very surprised that this did not go to £4000 plus for a 1998 cosworth estate, unmarked with just having done 60,000 miles.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by LiverpaulH on Feb 17th, 2005, 12:59pm
I am always amazed at the selling and buying of cars, especially the premium placed by the british public on low mileage cars.

My grandma owns a 1991 H reg fiesta auto and it has done exactly 40,070 miles from new. Me I wouldn't want it because the only time it is run without the choke out is when I borrow it once a month to give it an italiam tune up and clear the crap out of it. The trouble we have getting it through the emissions each year is huge.

On the other hand my mondeo I had before getting the scorp is a 1999T plate with 135,000 on the clock and in the two years I owned ran as sweet as anything and only cost me the price of a service and cambelt swap. Emissions, not a problem. I know which I would trust to go on a run and its not the low miler.

As for those selling cars, some of the prices expected are laughable. Apart from the scorp all but three (of about twelve) of my cars have been bought from auction, you can judge what you are getting pretty well, and bid appropriately.

I am/ would be happy to pay more than book for a car if it was right and what I wanted. At the end of the day a car is worth what is paid for it. Quite often value in use to you is more than what you could get for it by selling.

As for ebay, just remember buyer beware, and try and see the car before bidding.

Paul :)

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 17th, 2005, 1:28pm
John,

unfortunately you are not quite right with regards to the owness being on the seller to describe every little fault when selling on EBay. True the seller does bear some responsibility for making sure that any major or dangerous faults are notified, but it is also up to the buyer to either go and look and drive the car before bidding and to ask the right questions.Otherwise anyone who buys a car on ebay could turn up and say that you never mentioned that there was a small sratch on the bonnet so I don't want it. It is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer, not the seller and that carries through to the ebay rules and is also the law in some european countries, where a second hand item is sold as such and no warranties are given or implied by the seller.

As someone has stated....buyer beware, your bid on ebay is legally binding and enforceable, so ask the right questions

Baz

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 1:42pm
well this is what was wrong on the 2.3 saloon car from the nice man in Reading,
The auto gear-lever it moved up and down with just your little finger and when put into P it moved back, thereby making the siren sound when the door was opened. (told it may be dirty contact on door, (Pull the other one). To put right £340
Inside mirrow fell off window within a few hundred yards. cost £176 to put right.
Both back and front brake pads worn bady, like 85 to 90 % worn. Also needed new steel discs to front and back as these where worn to excess and badly tramlined.
Air bag warning light on all the time. cost £76 to put on Ford Computer and found to be wiring inside drivers seat belt stalk. replaced.
Crack, (not stone  damage) to windscreen behind mirrow, needed new windscreen.
Drivers door pocket broken.
Radio not working told it just need re-codeing, but upon taking out found to be smashed
Steering wheel the black leather had all worn off showing brown underneath. Needed new Steering wheel.
N/S fog and indicator lights loose, need pushing back into place.
All alloy wheels scruffed but not dented or bucked. going to get these re-burhised.
N/S head lamp not working, It was only the little black earth wire off  connection.
inside boot light missing.
Fitted with a little Halfords battery under the plastic cover, replace with correct Ford one.
Clunk missing out of side wall of N/S front type, only slight but I would not trust any damage to side walls.
Exhaust blowing slightly, put right.
Blanking panels to rear lights, inside boot missing.
Car alarm lens missing to front parcel shelf.
The plastic covers for inside engine bay that fit on top of threads to suspension bolts missing.
Wiper blades very badly worn.
Anti-freeze mainly water.
I no doubt missed somethings there was so much wrong.
Any way I left him Positive feedback because when confronted with all this, he straight away  offered to take the car back, no argument what so ever. and offered to pay all my train fares and exspenses.
But dispite the fact that the car was a wreck, it had a super engine and auto gearbox and did look nice with no dents etc and therefore looked like new inside and out.
So I asked him for £1000 towards the total of £1440 required to put right the car and he straight away by return post sent me a cheque.
Therefore I rate him as a super chap. not knocking him at all. I mean if you had got this car elsewhere you may well be engaged in a major battle to get reconpense.
I would buy another car from him. anytime but just  check the car out before I drive off and ask more questions before bidding.
So I and others think the car had been in a accident. Thats how I suggest is why the steering wheel was worn been replaced with a 2nd hand one and the driver thrown forward and hit the mirror into the windscreen there by causing the mirror to hit and crack the screen.
And the seat belt stalk being damaged by same reason.
But you can't see anything all the paint is the same on wings and bumpers as the rest of the car. you can't see anything inside of engine bay.
Anyway it cost £3301 but given back £1000, but used to put car right. so did cost £3301.
But a fine car now, A vidid performance and a nice looking car.
Two of Ford Main Dealers staff stated they would not mind having this car. but not for sale.









Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 2:13pm
Hi Baz, well we will have to beg to differ on this.
On ebay there as been cases of say people selling shoes as new unworn but when the buyer as received these he finds that they have indeed been worn.
Ebay has always supported the buyer. So I can't be that wrong.
I would not drive say 200 miles there and 200 miles back.
I might not even bother to ask questions, but on the other hand I might.
But when I when to collected the car if the sellor had been dishonest and not declared faults, I would walk away.
Look, it dishonest to get lots of bids and therefore a higher price by stating that his car is stunning and by far the best exsample he has ever seen only for it not to be any like that.
The sellor will have got that higher price by deception and therefore not be entitled to that higher price.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 17th, 2005, 2:20pm
Hi Johnv - I looked up the item

It said someone called Clark got it GBP 4501

Confused Captain

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 17th, 2005, 2:22pm
Winning bid:  £4,501.50

Ended:  14-Feb-05 21:00:00 GMT
Start time: 07-Feb-05 21:00:00 GMT
History: 44 bids   (£100.00 starting bid)
Winning bidder:  clark1761 ( 20)


Item location:  reading
United Kingdom

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 2:36pm
If Ebay rules are enforceable why when I brought a 2nd safe and paid £212 for it, the seller did a runner with my money. Ebay did not want to know, they said all we do is put the buyer and sellor in touch with each other. full stop. The Police have this in hand at the moment.
So when I got a Meridan tunner for my Hi Hi. off ebay despite sending 24 emails for his address I got no answer so that I could send my money. Ebay did not want to know, same reason as above.
I then found out from someone else that someone had email him offering  more after bidding had closed.
So I bid on other equipent and the sellor send me an email to say that the item had been damaged up in his loft with rain water getting into it by faulty roof tiles.
I found out from others that again he sold to others emailng after the auction had closed..
That cosworth I got last May from Ebay, the chap I got it off, was a good chap, he told me that he had had phone calls after the acution had closed offering to buy it for more. but he was honest and told these people, tough, you should have bid, the auction as ended. full stop.
Ebay are only interested in sellor not buyers because sellors pay them money in fees but buyers donot. (yes I know without buyers there would not be any sellors) but you know what I mean.
That's why I hate Ebay as much as Ford Main Dealers.
Ebay has been on radio programes many time of recent and people are all saying the same as me.
Of course I not on about sratches on car giving you the right to walk away. Most people will know just what I am on about.
Ebay auctions are really all about trust in the main, but when you find a bad one i would walk away and there is nothing in law that person could do.
I not on about some weeks later your car breaks down or faults develope, i on about false discriprtions.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 2:44pm
Hey Captain, I know that because I was following it just out of interest.
But I looked it up on parkers but its not worth anything like that.
But what I saying is when Mr Clark goes to collect the car he could be in for quite a shock.
Did you see how many bids. about 30 to 40 or somethnig like that. its the way the sellor decriptions of them. and if you clink on his other items you will see dozens and dozens of cars some jags and bmw and all sorts.
someone tell me where he gets them from, i would love to know, just out of interest.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 17th, 2005, 3:11pm
Well if the guy who bought it really wants to be awkward, the seller lists that the car has puddle lights and illuminated vanity mirrors...no it doesn't, it is an S reg and they had stopped doing them extras by then. Unless it was my old one of course which did have puddle lights and illuminated mirrors!! but also had 111,000 miles on the clock

Baz

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 17th, 2005, 3:14pm
Some unscrupulous ebayers practice KITING

Its well known with Auctions

You Bid and offer to Buy - but meanwhile......... offer the item on another Auction website..........but it is not owned by you

You can make a profit............. If you get a higher bid somewhere else.......... only then you buy and sell on to the sap.........ie the bidder

Thats why I avoid any item - when you ask a question - they say - I am not sure I am selling it on behalf of my brother / dead wifes uncle - lives in Germany etc etc

Also - watch out or suspect KITING - When they say on the ad - I reserve the right to withdraw the item as its advertised elsewhere - Who knows whether he is the rightful owner anyway -  

There endeth the lesson on KITING

Captain    

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 17th, 2005, 3:29pm
No puddle lights on the S reg. ?


       I luv em ,  real classy.

E-Bay is only the Medium by which you buy and sell, there are dodgy dealers who use it  , people desperate to separate you from your hard earned  cash  by selling  gullable and wide eyed innocents  sub-standard merchandise,  just  like  your  small ad  and  Private ( HA! ) traders do every day all around  the  country.

  I've used E-Bay, from buying an  £800  guitar to selling  my  embarrassing   Toyah  Vinyl  albums  ( Sigh!),
and I've never had a problem.

                      But I'd never bid on  a car sight unseen.

                 

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by craig on Feb 17th, 2005, 4:41pm
embarrassing toyah albums !!!!!!!!

it's a mystery to me

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 4:51pm
its often said that on car boot sales there are lot of stolen stuff in these.
(I not saying it I just saying what is being banned around).
But I think that there is lots of doggy things on Ebay, and getting worse all the time.
So what is Ebay doing about it, Sweet Nothing. To busy raking in the cash.
So you  can of course look at the feedback. of the sellor, very wise, and more important, look at the reason the seller is saying in his feedback.
I done lots of transaction for clothes and shoes for myself on ebay, because by the time I paid out for scorpio repairs and brought my son's school uniform £154.99 pence just for the blazer alone I am poor.  Don't anybody ask me about the school fees, its a dirty word not to be used on a nice site like this.
But I also brought the brat, some designer stuff from Ebay in USA, Canada etc. that is brand new with tags, very flash, just like him,even with the postage, bargains.
I did at one time thing about putting the "brat" on Ebay Auctions but they won't allow it as well his mother won't either.
I was so disappointed, I mean I could have made a killing there, and without false discribing, could have lived the rest of my life in complete bliss.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 5:03pm
Where as the Captain gone. I often follow up the auctions of the nice man from reading, by waiting a week or so, then look for what the buyer as said in leaving him feedback.
he got some negitive ones but lots of people have had problems and just like me give him a good feedback. but they say what was wrong. i did not because there not enough room on ebay slot for writting it in.
But Hey when I say he is a nice man, I mean it, I spoke to him in person on the telephone. And his wife was so concerned also that there was a problem, when I turn around and went back. she invited me in and phone the chap and told him to sort it.
I bear him no ill will, dispite the fact that there was so much wrong with the car i got off him.
He told me he sells so many cars that things get overlooked. He not got the time to look at them closely, He has a chap who polishes then called a valeter. God the smell of polish on outside and in. It still stinks of polish inside.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 5:48pm
He's at it again.
there is this 2.3 scorpio saloon car 1996. 91,000 miles its up to £1901 with three hours to run.
right at the end, there with be some last minutes bids which will take the car to over £2000.
Parkers state it worth £1740 in good condition. that is private sale.
But he getting some bad feedback. put in 4527009332 and clink on feedback to see more.
He really is his own worse ememy, should cool down his discriptions, more in line what the cars are actually like.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 17th, 2005, 7:41pm
Hi Johnv

See below

IT ALSO SPORTS A VERY VERY RARE MANUAL GEARBOX!!

This really is a beautiful looking model, finished in a fabulous metallic shade of purple, with a very low mileage, and only 1 former recorded keeper and this really is an economical car!!!!

This is a 1 former keeper car, with a full service history up to 88000 miles totaling 7 stamps in the service book.

Talk about Spin - Whats a very very rare manual gearbox ???

Captain


Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 17th, 2005, 8:12pm
There are gullable people everywhere and those on EBay who bid on 42" plasma tvs or bid without checking in the description that they are actually buying a link instead of an item deserve everything they get. My listings are always truthful and short with a recent photograph. I don't have masses of terms and conditions neither do I expect people to bid, win and then decide not to pay

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 9:08pm
yes captain, I seen that, but what he means is that most are auto's and manuals are not an everday ones to come up for sale.
But its all that about "I quote" This is a stunning car, Not only is this the flagship model Ultimate finished in the most individual purple metallic. buts its mega spec.
(Hey, i got two of these purple cars, so how can they be individual. There are lots and lots of these on Ebay.)
But its the bit about A stunning exsample, by far the best he ever seen.  and a lot more sayings like that.
I will admit, that was why I bid on it, and because it had only done 60,000 miles, I  was taken in by it, because being honest myself, I take people at face value. But I was ready to walk away if he did not adjust to take care of false discription.


Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 9:10pm
still time to leave it now, don't want enyone to say that I taking part in a witch hunt. like i say i rather buy a car from him than go to a car sales forecourt.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 17th, 2005, 9:25pm
and another thing, I often wonder when you see 33 bids say, and you look at those that had bid before you, where they have zero feedback.
Where they honest bids. because there are loads that are not.
So that means the price has gone up where it should not have so the higher bidder as paid more for the car that it would have been if these people did not sit there putting in bids that they did not mean to make good if they where the ones to win the auction.
There was a scorpio 2.9 with tinted windows on the same sellor we been talking about. The bidding whent up high, I looked at it very close but in the end did not bid because it had done 104,000 miles i think.
Then it needed a new rad cost £400 i presune that was fitted. I suppose they did a deal.
Anyway, he told me he got it for his wife and she did not like it,
so he put it back on ebay himself straight away, only one bid and that was a zero feedback who turned out to be a non buyer.
so it came again on ebay and no bids, but i lost track of it then.
I still at a lost how the nice man from reading manages to get so many bids, going sky high.
It can't all be the write up he gives them.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Badboytunes on Feb 17th, 2005, 10:33pm
I bought my scorp from ebay.......... 24v ultima ( with all extra's like puddle lights and wood facia ;D ;D). It turned out to be less than 2 miles from me , the car was up to 1500 with 1 day  left and i closed the auction early with a bid of £1700. It was  a stunning example( as seen by many from here) :P :P :P  and ran sweet....... shame i had to sell it.......  I have sold 3 cars via ebay with only oneproblem non payer ( last car i sold) >  i re-listed it and it sold for £150 more.... i wa more than happy ;D ;D untill Lynn had the money  :'( :'( :'( :'( Id happily buy a car from ebay but only a private seller and not trade...   That guy who is selling all these scorps never answers my questions when i challenge him regarding  the spec.........  

     Nick  ;)

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Badboytunes on Feb 17th, 2005, 10:44pm
Ive just looked at this guys cars for sale...  He as loads of bids with days to go.. I notice that nearly all o the bidders have zero feedback. Also  most of them have only registered in the last week or so. Sounds like a scam to me to get the bids up........... Sneaky b****r :o

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Badboytunes on Feb 17th, 2005, 10:53pm
Quote from  the Merc Sl he is selling.......



"Frankly, the way I see it is if someone 7 years ago saw fit to part with £10,000 for this vehicle, (and we have the original colour add and bill of sale to prove) then what must it be worth now, its value can only go one way from here on, as these are now entering classic car status.  Incidentally the restoration which was done prior to it being sold for £10,000 was fully documented and photographed in about 24 colour photos, and frankly the paint shop we use could effect the same repair to the areas weve noted for around £350 only"

  yeah right.......... £350 ...... this guy really must have worked for a double glazing firm with sales patter like that..

LOL
  Only my opinion tho.........

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by ian on Feb 18th, 2005, 10:19am
To be fair, a manual gearbox on a 2.3 is pretty unusual, but his descriptions do generally stink of male cattle faeces.

And on a similar note try 4529046089

This bloke has to be joking, 300 quid for a bumper????


Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 18th, 2005, 11:58am
hi badboytunes, I put that to bay two years ago, about people putting bids in themselves by have mates put in bids and even themselves, by having different emails.
Ebay, deny that it was techincally possible.
But you can open an account with Hotmail and Yahoo for no money there and them in seconds.
My son used to be on a penpal site, for talking to children from abroad.
But there was so much trouble that they made a new rule.
That is they will only accept people with paid for accounts. not free email accounts.
What was happening was they they would get banned, so come back on with a nre email account on Hotmail or some other freebie.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 18th, 2005, 12:11pm
hi to Ian, I often seen his stuff, with such a high starting price on all he sells, that no one bids on it.
But Madmanscporio first bid prices are very resonable. He still the one on ebay to deal with, if he got what you what.
I wonder how much a brand new one would be. but of course you got to have it painted that would be extra cost.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Just Call Me Captain on Feb 18th, 2005, 2:40pm
I am sure a lot of these so called bids - are done by a SHILL

Just to get the crowd going


n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders or bidders into participating in a swindle.

v. shilled, shill·ing, shills
v. intr.
To act as a shill.

v. tr.
To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
To lure (a person) into a swindle.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Perhaps short for shillaber.]


Captain

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 19th, 2005, 9:39am
Ian,

PVSCARS was someone who was asked to leave this site for doing the hard sell on every thread that appeared. He does break a lot of Scorpios but in typical scrap car dealer fashion, seems to think that every bit is worth a fortune and will probably use the phrase "do you know how much Fords charge for these??" on numerous occasions!!

Baz

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 19th, 2005, 10:11am
that bit that baz says if so right. i often was going to do a posting like that, but i throught i better not, did not want to cause any trouble.
one last point, if anyone interested, go ebay, go motor parts, go down till you reach any item he his selling. then clink on other items he selling and look at his first bid prices.
"I rest my case".
(God I done it now, someone whos a supporter of his is bound to have a go at me now).
But i feel sure he his a real nice guy, but its just his prices that are real sky high.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Baz on Feb 19th, 2005, 5:17pm
I have bought from PVSCars and Phil does know what he is talking about but like all people who break cars (and I am friends with quite a few!!) does get a little over exuberant with the pricing structure! but I'm sure it isn't deliberate. I suppose we could always go and pay Ford prices!!

There are the fordparts guys who also are recommended here but I must admit that I have never bought from them.

That said, it was only the way he tried to sell to all and sundry on here which got him evicted!

There is a difference between guys who sell bits of cars and those who sell complete ones, I have never ever met an honest used car salesman and never ever will I don't suppose!!

Baz

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by johnv on Feb 19th, 2005, 5:41pm
yes i sure he his a real nice guy. i got a complete windscreen washer bottle from him with pump the lot. (just as a spare in case one one mine ever packed up).
It was just £12 and the postage was no more than £4 I think),
It came straight away, and he was very pleasant on his emails. In short, I found him a first class guy and I will buy from him again.
But not at the prices he is putting up at the moment.
That why I did not want to do a post about him. because we all are only trying to earn a living. and he was so pleasant to me in his dealing.
I will alway sing the praise of real good people, but will not tolerate big firms, wether they be Insurance Companies, or Ford Main Dealers etc. etc. who to put it buntly are just cheats. (I could but it more strongly).

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by kawasacki on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:24pm
;D Guess I got a bargain then...
Guy from Manchester was selling an estate ultima (dealer) on ebay and happened to mention on his listing that he also had a saloon.
Called him first thing the friday morn' and took a train from Huntingdon and the very nice man even picked me up from the station. What a car, 1996 cossie, black, fsh, every toy imaginable, 5 months mot, 3 months tax, excellent interior, even the wheels are unmarked and every single thing worked. The problem? leaking steering rack, only 1 black key. The price? £700!.
Changed my insurance over there and then, only an extra £68 and I smiled like an idiot all the way home.
Bought a steering rack (yes, steering control) from madmadscorpioman (took 3 days) off of ebay for £80 all in (?) and I am a happy bunny. I have owned it for a month, put about a thousand plus miles on it and just cannot stop washing it. Its suprising how many people say to me that they thought it was the ugliest car they had ever seen when it first came out but now they think they look great!
As for performance, well I love it, I had just sold my zzr1100 on ebay and didn't think any car in my price range would make me smile, but this does. My ebay handle is the same as on here so you can see the steering rack (and side clear indicators) for yerselves. So far have been very lucky with ebay and do know of freinds that have been stung in the past but thats what feedback is all about. If they have bad feedback, don't deal as there are idiots in all walks of life.
P.s. Site is great, very, very helpful.

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by gaz01gaz on Jun 22nd, 2005, 5:36pm
well i have to agree with you fellas..i have just sold my 1997 2.3 ghia estate on ebay for 850.00 140k on the clock...but i did mention all its faults whether small or a big problem but they were only scratches and handbrake slack,my friend says i am too honest....who else would mention these kind of things ? i just love my scorps and hope whoever is coming for it appreciates it as much as i do because if i was not so honest  i think it may have gone for around 1500.00.....so the winning bidder i think got a good car at a good price !!!!!!

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Boblavens on Jun 22nd, 2005, 10:11pm
He's a very nice man and he's probably Loaded!
Just look at all the cars he is selling.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsterlingQ5fcars
He must be a dealer!!

Bob

Title: Re: Ebay 4526234849
Post by Boblavens on Jun 22nd, 2005, 10:13pm
He's still qouting silly repair prices!
See this add and how much for a head gasket job?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9844&item=4557854778&rd=1

Bob



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