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(Message started by: Nodge on Feb 21st, 2005, 7:09pm)

Title: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Nodge on Feb 21st, 2005, 7:09pm
If anyone's interested Lidls are selling one of those battery pack things which will jump start your car in an emergency. It also has a built in compressor, voltmeter, light and will power portable tvs etc. Might be a useful thing to stick in the boot. Knowing me it'll sit there for 6 months till I actually need it and then it'll be flat.
Seems good value at only £19.99.

Nodge

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Paul B on Feb 21st, 2005, 8:20pm
Good things to have too.
Mine's got me out of trouble a few times.

Paul's advice: Get one!

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by ren on Feb 21st, 2005, 8:51pm

last time this offer was on each store had a grand total
 of two (2) to sell
what date are they in store from???
 
 Ren

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Paul B on Feb 21st, 2005, 8:54pm
Pretty much guaranteed a sell-out then!  :D

Mine came from somewhere else, but the principal is the same for all makes. A good idea.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Mrs Phuturephantasy on Feb 21st, 2005, 9:03pm

There start thursday and finishes 28/02/05
i think everyone should get one , i just look in the index catalogue and they are doing one for £39.99p

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Nodge on Feb 21st, 2005, 9:54pm
The Lidl's offer started today. The first one I went to (Thamesmead) had sold out but the next (Welling store near Bexleyheath) still had half a dozen this evening).
Nodge

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 21st, 2005, 9:57pm
Emergency Battery Starter
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If anyone's interested Lidls are selling one of those battery pack things which will jump start your car in an emergency. It also has a built in compressor, voltmeter, light and will power portable tvs etc. Might be a useful thing to stick in the boot. Knowing me it'll sit there for 6 months till I actually need it and then it'll be flat.  
Seems good value at only £19.99.

Nodge

But I been telling people about these for months now. but £19.99 is a very good price. I seen then around for £29.99.
But as to the compressor. you have to wait and wait and wait for them to increase your pressure.
I carry those little ones on Ebay you can get for about £7 and plug in into the rear lighter socket, I found you get much more power.
But yes they do start you engine if you have a flat battery and they can power your phone if you phone battery is flat.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 24th, 2005, 10:51am
I really should get my hands on one of these , as push starting  an auto  is  fairly  pointless.




How do these things work then ?

 

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Nodge on Feb 24th, 2005, 12:38pm
It's basically a 12v battery with a set of jump leads. If you get one you should read the instructions before using though.  The Lidl's one tells you to connect as usual - red lead to pos terminal and black lead to earth on the engine. Then turn ignition on and wait 2 mins before starting. It specifically tells you NOT to try and start the engine as soon as you've connected up.

Nodge

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 24th, 2005, 7:04pm
now come on them, i mean are you sure, i mean really sure, i mean sure for certain, absolutely sure. no shadow of a doubt. that the battery inside in 12v, I understood that they where 7V.
Tomorrow, I will look at the boxes to see what it says on mine.
The people selling these on ebay sometimes say what volts the batteries are.
But no wonder Nodge needs to have one of these in the boot of his car, flashing his lights all the time, they fair dazzle me all the time i trying to read or type on this site..

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 24th, 2005, 7:06pm
i just wondering if we are talking the same battery packs.
because on mine you don't need to do any waiting at all.
clip on the pos and neg and start.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Nodge on Feb 24th, 2005, 9:47pm
http://www.uk-onlineshopping.co.uk/image/backpack.jpg

:)

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Paul B on Feb 24th, 2005, 10:48pm
Cables look fairly short on that one. I think they are on some.

Mine are long enough to be able to stand the unit on the ground and still connect up to the battery.

Handy really, cos otherwise you'll be balancing the unit on top of the engine.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by simonmd on Feb 24th, 2005, 11:51pm
Some do have short cables and require you to be able to place the unit ontop of the battery for them to reach. Not to bad on a Scorpio as it sits nicely on the grill under the wipers with the bonnet open.

As for keeping in the boot and then finding it flat, try this tip I use. Run a 12v feed into the boot and connect to the units cigar lighter power cord. Best to use an ignition live to avoid overcharging and not to drain your battery while charging your battery!

Usualy, these units won't have the power to jump a completely flat car but are a very usefull failsafe nevertheless.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 26th, 2005, 8:18pm
hey Paul B; what make are yours, because i got the top quality ones and my leads our all short.
I did not know that they made these with long leads.
The photo of the cheaper one with the one lighter socket on the side, it says 12V.
But they all say that, all the different ones on ebay say that. mine say that. because they are for 12v systems.
But in the booklets that come with mine, it clearly states that the battery inside is 7 volt.
I guessing now, but  is it,  because of the size that has to fit inside.
Before anyone starts.. I not knocking the cheap ones, I got one of those that I keep in my garage as a spare.
If anyone wants to know which I have in the cars. if you are on Ebay. at any time and see those taller ones with three lighter sockets on the front, that;s what I got.
But I think they are NO better than the cheaper ones, all seem to use the same componets

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 26th, 2005, 8:22pm
not starting a completely flat battery.
i can only say what happened to me.
I left the car phone switched on a year ago, all over a bank holiday weekend.
Battery flat, no clinking from the selnoid, started the car first time.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Paul B on Feb 27th, 2005, 8:29am
John... I'll double check later what make it is (have to get it back from a mate who borrowed it a couple of days ago) but I think its a Clarke one. They come from Machine Mart shops.

Just had a look at their website. I'm certain this is the one I've got...
Jump Starter Pack (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010310400)

And this one's got the compressor on it too...
Jump Starter Pack (with compressor) (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010310910)

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 27th, 2005, 9:24am
hi paul been onto clarks website but i can't see any that have long leads you can use them on the ground. but it does not matter. i was just interested when you said that about the longer leads.
I lay mine on its back in engine compartment.
but thanks for the inflo.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by johnv on Feb 27th, 2005, 9:30am
if anyone wants to see which ones i have, go to ebay.
put in 7956525760.

These where about two years ago £89.99. (No I was not that daft to pay this).
But on Ebay at this time they are selling at £28.95 buy it now. plus £7.50 P & P (but without insurance) o God I just mentioned that word again, now I will be for it.

But at this price they are a steal, the better quality ones. they have three lighter sockets.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by Paul B on Feb 27th, 2005, 9:32am
As I said John, mine's the same as the one in the first picture.

The red cable you see there is wrapped around the handle a couple of times. And the black one is curled up a bit too.

With the unit stood down on the ground, the cables will reach the battery.


And I just had another look at the catalogue - they quote the cables as 1180mm long.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by wudz on Mar 23rd, 2005, 10:54pm
Hi all,

Just reading the posts. just as a matter of safety I would not advise charging from the car system as they use sealed cells and can explode if charge using  the charging systems for vented batteries,
I too bought one from Netto  same one that Lidl are selling last year 19.99 b...dy great price and have used it a couple of times.
Using short leads  is really better  if the wire cross section is the same, long leads require thicker cross section  to reduce resistance due to the high currents involved in cranking the engine over this maximises the voltage at the lead ends all used for starting not warming leads as with longer leads... all helps with these small capacity batteries.
I also use it for blowing the grandchildrens boat up..
all I can say if you can get one then do not hesitate..a great back up for autos..

Cheers
John

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by kevin_R on Mar 24th, 2005, 12:38am
I went to buy one one day offer started,
in i went coulden't find them asked a fella in the back place and he told me they had sold out WHAT!
The Bl%dy store had only been open 20 mins, all i'll say is the b****rs must be good!
Anyone not happy with theirs i'll rob me self and give you 20 quid for cash?  ::)
Best Kevin_R   ;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by ron_c on Mar 26th, 2005, 7:53pm
If anyone has a MAKRO card, last time I was in there they had a stack of these things at less than 20 quid. Sadly, no card, no way in.

Ron

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by KEF on Mar 31st, 2005, 7:08am
Hi
I bought one from one of those Big BOOT fairs £ 15.00
Brand new. The stall had loads of them on sale.
It's bright yellow, compressor and meter, lighter power port, light, it has a 12 volt battery inside or so the book that came with it said. It has short leads to deliver the most power, longer the leads the more power you lose.
There was a few stalls selling them with prices ranging from £15, £18, £20, and £30 and they all looked like the same unit so it pay's to shop around.
KEF
Keith

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by ron_c on Apr 5th, 2005, 6:22pm
Makro have them on offer at £15 + VAT if you know anyone with a business card.

Title: Re: Emergency Battery Starter
Post by bigmaltwo on Apr 19th, 2005, 12:37am
with regard to the 'cheap' battery packs, please note the following. :o
They are ok if you can keep them fully charged, but are not really up to the job of several jump starts in a short period. :-[
I have got through 4 or 5 of the type shown (in my job as a breakdown mechanic) in the last 3 years! :-[
the most important thing is to check the actual amp / hour rating of the internal battery. Most are around 14 a/h or so. obviously, the higher the better!
I pay about £12-15 (excl vat) from makro. Please dont pay more than about £25 retail for this type!!!
If you need 'heavy duty' stuff, then you're looking at draper / bluepoint / snap on etc but at one hell of an inflated price! You do get what you pay for though.
As they say, it's horses for courses. If you only need the occasional jump(??!!!!) ;) then the cheapies are ok, but don't buy a chicken, when you need an ostritch!!! ::)
happy jumping folks.
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