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(Message started by: sad_eyes on May 24^th, 2005, 10:40am)

Title: Red Master Key
Post by sad_eyes on May 24^th, 2005, 10:40am

I own a late 1998 24v Ultima.It came with 2 keys both with red chips in the handles.There was no completely Red key.Should there be one.Someone told me they didn,t do a master key for this model.Is this right?
Thanks for your help
Dave

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by SaveTheNight on May 24^th, 2005, 11:33pm

Hi Dave .. some did and some didn't ... in 99% of cases though the red key had disapeared by that year .... regards ... STN

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by sad_eyes on May 25^th, 2005, 9:53am

Thanks for that STN.

Dave

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by geraghtyg on May 25^th, 2005, 1:02pm

Of course I would have to be different. I have an April 98 manufactured car and I have the red master key. I must be one of the 1%

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Aug 4^th, 2005, 9:56pm

Hi, my brandnew July '98 Scorpio Cosworth (last car of just 50 for Holland at the time) came with just three identical black keys with the small red Pats inserts.

I just had a new completely RED masterkey remade by the local dealer for my '95 Cosworth.

It was made in addition to its 2 existing slim black with RED insert keys that I had off the previous owner. Half an hour local job, cost € 50 and worth it.

HTH,

Ray

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by WAYNE on Aug 7^th, 2005, 9:27am

Hi
Mines a May 98, and mines got red key x1, Black key x2,Wallet key x1.hth
wayne

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by proberjohn on Aug 7^th, 2005, 9:15pm

My April '98 has PATS II which does not have a master key.

I only had one chipped key so got a couple more done and should now be able to do my own (in theory anyway).

John B.

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by Partsman on Aug 19^th, 2005, 3:40pm

Where do I start? Up to 98 1/4 model year a three key system was used - 1 (red) master key and at least one other key for normal use. After that a two key system was used. This needs at least 3 keys as you need 2 to programme any new ones. If you only have 2 and loose one its off to your local Ford dealer to have the system reprogrammed with WDS. I think the 98 1/4 model came out 11/97 when Scorps were facelifted - better front bumper, less chrome etc.
The 2 & 3 key system relates to what FMC supplied when the vehicle was new, not the amount of keys you should really have to avoid costly reprogramming.
In the early 3 key system the master key does not have to be red - all the chips are the same. Its just an easy way of telling which one is the master one when you really need it
As long as yours is a 98 build facelift model you should be OK but it would be worth getting a third key cut and programming it while you've still got 2 keys.

Title: Re: Red Master Key
Post by Partsman on Aug 19^th, 2005, 5:13pm

Update to earlier posting. Although the 3 key system will work with 1 or 2 keys the system has to have at least 3 keys programmed into it at sometime in the past. You don't have to have them all though.