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(Message started by: waynem325 on Jun 7^th, 2005, 8:22pm)

Title: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 7^th, 2005, 8:22pm

Guys,

Really need to some professional advice on the Scorpio dilema I've found myself in.......

2 weeks ago (Wednesday 24/5) I bought (from a garage) a Cosworth Ultima, auto saloon. N reg '95 with 88k on the clock. FSH upto 70k and a few receipts for odds and sods. Up for £2300, £1300 p/x on my current car, £100 deposit then £900 to pay upon collection.
(The car only has 1 key and 1 remote. The auto dim mirror has faded and is near to useless and the speakers are well and truly broken-all would need replacing at a fair old cost)

When I went to check it out the radiator had sprung a leak and I was told not to worry as that would be replaced when they serviced it. Told it would be ready on the Saturday.
It wasn't-the water pump had gone, so that too would be replaced. They had ordered one and i was told it would be ready Tuesday/Wednesday (last week)
I called them and apparently the wrong pump had been sent and they were having troubles sourcing a new one...would I mind waiting a few more days?
So, I called on Saturday and good news! They'd found one and it would be delivered Monday, or Tuesday at the latest (Today) so the car would be ready tonight.
I called them this afternoon after work and yet again....still not ready-pump yet to turn up-can I wait till tomorrow!

I don't know how anyone else would feel but I'm feeling a bit like a mug. Its as if I'm chasing a carrot on a stick. If I wait till tomorrow then it probably still won't be ready and I'll have to wait even longer! It makes me wonder if there has been anything else wrong with the car? Don't get me wrong -the garage do seem genuine (though I've never used them before) but it feels like it isn't meant to be.

I told the garage to "knock it on the head". I'm tired of waiting and said i'd collect my deposit later. He said ok then hung up.

To make matters a little more difficult, yesterday at work I met someone who has a '98 S reg Scorpio 2.3 Ultima estate who was p/x'ing it on a car tomorrow. He said I could have it for £1500. 110k on the clock but fully serviced-everything maintained-no expense spared.

He's a really nice, genuine guy and he brought it round tonight for me to have a look at. Everything is in tip top condition-the autobox is smooth and it drives like a dream. The only thing wrong is a tyre would need replacing for the MOT. (comes complete with 2 keys, 2 remotes and the red master key too)

I love his car and I think £1500 is a bargain! But it would leave me with 2 cars. Obviously I would have to sell the other but I really haven't got the time to be bothered with the hassle of advertising and dealing with people coming round to see it. I'm currently on a course for a foundation degree and the majority of my spare time is spent studying.

What do you think? Should I call the garage tomorrow and hope its sorted and go for that one (3 months warranty but costs a bit more)
Or should I get myself a bargain (the estate would be better for us/its newer/seems a better condition+car) and then worry about selling my car at a later date?????

Why isn't anything simple??????

Thanks for any input.....if you've actually got this far ;D

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Lee on Jun 7^th, 2005, 9:10pm

that a hard one Wayne but only you can answer
24v great i would love one but a s reg 2.3 would be great too ,,,,,,, at the end of the day go with your gut feeling and worry about it later if it was wrong
Lee

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by ADroste on Jun 7^th, 2005, 9:32pm

Wayne,

for me this would not be a question: take the 2.3 Ultima! The 1998 cars have overcome nearly all design and manufacturing problems of earlier models. And the 2.3 is not so thirsty as the cosworth. For my taste the '95 car as some weak points too much. So try to shift the deposition to a moment when you have more time.
HTH
Armin

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 7^th, 2005, 9:57pm

Thanks guys,

Thanks for sticking with it and getting to the end....bit of a short story going on there!

Practically came up with the same thoughts of you both and went with the gut feeling and called the guy with the 2.3.....and bought it from him-pick it up tomorrow at work ;D

We're gonna take my current car to a few garages at the weekend and see what happens.....if not theres always the weekend after.
The interior seems a lot more solid and looked after in the 2.3.....the insurance is cheaper and the mpg is a whole lot better. Will save more in the long run ;D ;D

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Paul B on Jun 7^th, 2005, 10:05pm

As a 24v owner, I feel that I'm meant to say "Go for the Cossie".
However, as you said yourself, it seems like that one's not meant to be :-/

Now this 2.3 sounds like a good one, and the 2.3's are great cars. So personally, I'd go for this one. Go for the better car and have the hassle of selling yours later.

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Paul B on Jun 7^th, 2005, 10:07pm

AHA... you beat me to it.

Sounds like you made a wise move 8)

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Baz on Jun 7^th, 2005, 10:59pm

They did overcome all of the design flaws....apart from the rusty rear wheel arches c/o the old Granadas!!

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 7^th, 2005, 11:03pm

As much as I'd love a Cosworth the voices in my head are been sensible for once and telling me it sounds like an unwise investment.
I've got a motorbike that can crack a ton in 6 seconds so if I'm honest I don't really need the performance.

The guy I'm buying the 2.3 from seems the sensible type who wouldn't scrimp on servicing/maintainance costs etc.....and he is buying a new Jag :o

Just can't wait till tomorrow...................finally got me a Scorpio ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Baz on Jun 8^th, 2005, 12:15am

Wayne,

you'll have to change your line at the bottom of your posts now!!

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Dave on Jun 8^th, 2005, 9:35am

Wayne,

the '98 car will probably be a better bet for the money, like you say if this chap is upgrading to a Jag he is unlikely to have scrimped ovet the Scorpio. I have the 24v and have no experience of the 2.3 but believe it is a very good engine.

Hope all goes well :)

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 8^th, 2005, 3:31pm

Got the 2.3 today!!!!!
And went to the garage and got my deposit back as well. Its a good day!!!!! Though I can't change my insurance over until Saturday/Sunday as I've just put a claim in on my other car for the windscreen. (Don't you just love comprehensive insurance and autoglass!! £50 for Mondeo windscreen) Think i'll have to spend the next few days sitting in the car and polishing it :( ;)

Baz-thanks mate. I totally forgot about the bottom line. I'm working on it :D

I hope so Dave-first impressions are good so far but there are a couple of things that I'll have to sort out.

Finally a Scorpio owner!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by craig on Jun 8^th, 2005, 3:43pm

and a fellow 2.3 as well ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by music_master on Jun 9^th, 2005, 10:29pm

just like me to craig a fellow estate owner and u and baz know wot i think of the 2.3 love it love it love ;D happy motoring }{

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by ferretmobile on Jun 10^th, 2005, 11:33am

Me too got a 2.3 and love it to bits,also remember that the 2.3 was also designed by cosworth...and it shows.
Smooth and powerful. Well done mate! ;D
Ferret

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 11^th, 2005, 5:59am

Cheers chaps, ;D

Very confidence inspiring! Certainly sounds like I made the right choice! (aaaaannnnndddddddd-apparently the Cossie still isn't ready :o )
Just hope I can sell my Mondeo quickly.

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by Paul B on Jun 11^th, 2005, 7:11am

Any photos then? ::)

Title: Re: Which would you choose-Scorpio dilema!!!
Post by waynem325 on Jun 11^th, 2005, 7:49am

As much as it frustrates me Paul I've decided to leave it at work until its insured and I keep forgetting my camera.
Hopefully if the new windscreen gets installed on my Mondeo today the Scorpio will be insured this evening ;D
In all honesty though I'm a little reluctant to go too far as the rear tyres are probably past the legal limit.

Will get some pics tonight......hopefully ;)