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(Message started by: DJWerkz on Jan 26^th, 2006, 1:17am)

Title: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 26^th, 2006, 1:17am

I was just wondering if anyone has any advice on whether there are any 'genuine' engine additives out there that will clean hydraulic valves if they are a little noisy and other engine components?

As my engine has been standing for some time I plan on doing the first oil change fairly quickly and was thinking it would be good to put an additive in before I do the change.

By the way, I'm using the expensive GM 5w-30 engine oil as my brother-in-law gets this cheap from Vauxhall's.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by - Mike - on Jan 26^th, 2006, 1:32am

Ask your brother-in-law if his dealership is using Forte fuel treatment (some are) and get him to get you a bottle, this is supposedly good stuff for cleaning the system out, including valves. Forte even put a guarantee on it against MOT emissions failure (subject to terms and conditions of course). I've used it with no complaints.

HTH
Mike

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by Ford-Son-Major on Jan 26^th, 2006, 1:41am

Hi
Dont use any additives with synthetic oil just change oil and filter after 300 miles. You will find the oil will clean out any deposits left in the engine.
Good idea to check the old oil when you drain it into the nice clean plastic bowl.
If you find large amounts of carbon grit. do the same again after 300 miles..
After all the price of the oil is not an issue..
Regards
Mike in Luton.. 8) 8)

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by - Mike - on Jan 26^th, 2006, 1:52am

Whoops :-[

Didn't read your post properly I was talking about the wrong valves, still it is good stuff.

As for the hydraulic valves I flushed out the engine on the last change with a can of engine flush and a bottle of clean oil for 15 minutes at "high-ish" revs before draining and refilling the engine with Castrol Magnatec 10W40 and a new filter. Taking into account though I've only done 81K with regular servicing and oil changes every 3K I wouldn't recommend particulary flushing on high mileage vehicles and this is something you don't do every oil change. @

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by Ford-Son-Major on Jan 26^th, 2006, 2:01am

Hi
Foregot to mention that I used to build race engines a few years ago such as Ford BDA, BDG. Chevy 327, 350, 454 cu/ins.
I worked in the oilfield for many years on Caterpillar D399 V16, EMD V16, Detroit V12, and Cummins Diesel engines.
Oil change on a EMD V16 around 300 gallons and 36 filters..
I never used any additives or flushing oil even after a engine failure and rebuild.
I always used top quality oil every time..

Regards
Mike in Luton.. 8) 8)

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 26^th, 2006, 8:36am

recomend the forte additives, best I've used, def the dogs & the only additive cure I have found for noisy hydraulic tappets, even with high quality oils you can get a varnish build up in the followers & oil ways to them, dont put clean oil in a dirty engine.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 26^th, 2006, 2:04pm

Can anyone on here obtain Forte products if I were to pay them?

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by david_molloy on Jan 26^th, 2006, 6:12pm

I used AMSOIL engine flush - who recommend that you fit new filter proir to using for max effect- cannot drive car with it in - just fast idle for 20mins then empty.
Only use it when I don't know history otherwise 3 -4000 mile oil & filter changes should prevent any problems occuring in 1st place
david

p.s anyone got Forte web site address out of interest

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 26^th, 2006, 7:29pm

http://www.forteuk.co.uk

...but as you will see, this is trade only product, not retail which is why I asked if anyone can get it ;)

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by david_molloy on Jan 26^th, 2006, 11:11pm

Thanks
I'll ask around next week to see if I can get someone to order.
I'll let you know how I go on.
david

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 27^th, 2006, 8:38am

I keep it in stock at work.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 27^th, 2006, 8:52am

How much is the hydraulic valve additive Martin? How many would I need for the 24v engine?

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 27^th, 2006, 1:37pm

The oil flush is £8.20 inc vat.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 27^th, 2006, 2:16pm

Thanks Martin but I wa slooking for a price on this product:

http://www.forteuk.co.uk/Top_end.htm

Let me know how much I will need for the 24v ;)

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 27^th, 2006, 4:38pm

Similar price, never used that one though, good flush then good oil, but it wouldnt hurt, all their products are top notch, used em for years, does exactly what it says on the tin.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 27^th, 2006, 4:57pm

I'll take a couple of the Top End treatments please Martin. Let me know how you want payment, can send funds via PayPal.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 28^th, 2006, 8:54am

I take it you are up & running again ?. will check on postage price as soon as I get chance, I will let you know, can pay over phone on c/card, thats bests for me.

Title: Re: Engine Additive as a cleaner
Post by DJWerkz on Jan 28^th, 2006, 3:01pm

Hi Martin,
I'v PM'd you my contact numbers so when you sort the price out you can give me a call for payment ;)