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(Message started by: mazzy_j on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 1:47pm)

Title: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 1:47pm

http://photobucket.com/albums/d94/mazzy_j/?action=view&current=MiddleBox.jpg

Just wondering but what do these 2 exhaust boxes circled in the picture do as i'm thinking of making my 24v a bit more 'vocal'. My thoughts are that they're either an expansion box, a silencer, or both? Would it matter if i were to cut them out and replace them with some straight through pipe?

Thanks, Matt

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Dave on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 1:52pm

Have a look at this Matt:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/exhaust/exhaust24V.pdf

think they are some sort of mufflers.

Hope your Cossie is going well ;D

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:07pm

Hi Dave, yes its all going well so far thanks ;D though i'm gonna have to re-check the autobox fluid after reading up on it here about the colour as i think it may be a bit suspect... but i hope not :) The manual conversion maybe sooner than planned!

Yes those are the ones i'm talking about (borrowed my picture from ebay), also found this tasty looking item from the forum which did away with the mufflers in question:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1138996247;start=0#0

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Dave on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:10pm

Ahh yes Barries car, that is an real beauty, he's really done some nice stuff to it.

About your autobox, if it changes gear ok and takes up D and R in reasonable time and without a bang it would be well worth changing the gearbox oil. My fluid looked a bit ropey when we got the car home (sort of dark but not burnt) but after a gearbox oil and filter change it has been great, immediately transformed it :)

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:23pm

Looks smart even in that 1 picture, not seen many in that colour though. The autobox takes roughly 3/4 of a second to engage which i think sounds about right (i'm an autobox newbie), and the oil resembles what you just described. Had a bit of a 'smell' to it which i'm not sure whether its good or bad, though there wern't any 'bits' in it.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Dave on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:29pm

Yeah it should have a mineral kind of smell to it so yours sounds ok. 3/4 of a second is pretty good, doesn't sound like you have got anything to worry about. An oil and filter change for it will keep it in good health though.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:31pm

Removing the silencer boxes may:

1. Affect performance ( Ford tend to fit these things for a reason )

2. Affect emission levels, and fail the MOT.

3. Affect noise levels, and fail the MOT.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Scorpioen84 on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 3:52pm

Isnt that the cats.?? ??? The scorp go twin cats.?

The last one is the silencer...?

Or have i had it wrong all this time...?

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Dave on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 4:07pm

The cats are nearer the engine as far as I know

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by martin_rowe on Feb 23^rd, 2006, 8:44am

those two boxes are just silencers, you get a very satisfying roar by removing the tail pipe box & welding in a streight pipe.
prescence or not of silencers or cats is not part of the MOT, only an emission test, but it wont pass that with out the cats.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 23^rd, 2006, 2:22pm

Thanks Martin, was gonna leave the cats and the very last silencer where they are and just remove those 2 centre box's, but i thought i should probably ask before i get too hacksaw happy and then find out they do something important.

Cheers, Matt

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by leftofcentre on Feb 24^th, 2006, 1:08am

will probably effect ones fuel consumption though.

Why not buy a Ford Fiesta with a big bore exhaust? ;D

Sorry, cant understand the Boy Racer look at the Ford Scorpio. Its just not the right type of car for all that lowered/spoilered/booming/revving/17yr old-just-passed-my-test carry on in my opinion.

Each to thier own i guess :-X

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by martin_rowe on Feb 24^th, 2006, 8:39am

no effect on consumption.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 24^th, 2006, 10:26am

leftofcentre, thats the whole idea, there is nothing worse than a chavved up fiesta IMO, i just wanted it to sound a little bit more vocal and still look standard (hence leaving the standard backbox).

I'm 19 and people at work have big bore exhaust'd fiesta's and the like, only they've spent more on the exhaust than i did on the whole car, and they still don't have a hope in h*ll of keeping up with me even as standard! ;D

Matt

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 24^th, 2006, 11:17am

I always feel a bit sorry that these guys can't afford a full sized car, but they
seem to quite happy buzzing around in their little " Girlie" hatchbacks. ::)

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by leftofcentre on Feb 25^th, 2006, 1:07am

Fair Comment Mazzy. ;)
Although i bet your insurance is rather more than theres is.

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Geoff_W on Feb 25^th, 2006, 9:47am

Personal view Scorp looks handsome as standard but here are some alternatives.

http://www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ec3d84e949854345dee33a14d3e9015e&threadid=8064&pagenumber=2

Actually like the look of the third one down. ;D

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 25^th, 2006, 1:02pm

Thats another thing i like about the scorp, cheap insurance :) the insurance for my td was £1200 tpft, but for some weird reason i can't explain the insurance for my cossie is just over £900. Not bad eh 8)

Compare that to my mates 51 plate 1.6 Fiesta Zetec S he's paying £1700, and he's the same age as me!

Matt

p.s. Although not very subtle, have you seen my lighting upgrade on my td, put them on for my rally driving. Get quite a few 'looks' as i drive by:

http://photobucket.com/albums/d94/mazzy_j/?action=view&current=Scorpio004.jpg

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by Dave on Feb 25^th, 2006, 3:36pm

Nice pair of cars you have there Matt. You keeping the td for the rallying?

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by mazzy_j on Feb 25^th, 2006, 6:41pm

Thanks Dave ;D , i'm really a bit stuck as to what to do with the pair. The cossie is perfect for doing the rallying in (once i've put some wider tyres and the spots on it), i actually bought it as a cheapie to save my td which i need to get me to and from work reliably everyday, the cosworth in such good nick i really don't wonna go ruining it if anything were to go more sideways then usual and end up going all pear shaped.

I'll probably end up rallying it at the next one, but i think at least i've saved another scorp from someone else getting hold of it and disecting it for ebay.

Although no rocket, the td has done me proud and me and my navigator are currently in joint first place (we're still beginners), but this could all change (hopefully not!) as we missed out entering the last one due to one reason or another:

http://www.chelmsfordmc.co.uk/cmc/Tables/12CarWinterSeries05-06.pdf

Will let you know how it goes!

Matt

Title: Re: Exhaust - What does this do?
Post by barrie on Feb 25^th, 2006, 6:56pm

Hi Matt Just to add that my car is actually better on fuel than it was before, and cost half the price of a Ford replacement.