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(Message started by: Pegasus on Mar 25^th, 2006, 9:11pm)

Title: What's this connector for?
Post by Pegasus on Mar 25^th, 2006, 9:11pm

Hi,
Just found this sitting under the crossmember.

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Anyone have a similar thing and what is it normally connected to?

Cheers

Paul

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Simmo on Mar 26^th, 2006, 6:43am

Paul. Could it be for headlamp washers unless you have them. I'm sure I have the odd 'spare'connector on mine. Would the colour code of the wires tell you by reference to the wiring diagram?. Mike.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Paul B on Mar 26^th, 2006, 8:03am

Paul... I've got 2 of those on mine. One each side of the crossmember.
I think quite a few others have them as well, but no-one's ever worked out what the 'spare' connectors could be on a top spec car that already has everything :-/

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by music_master on Mar 26^th, 2006, 6:26pm

i have them too always wondered what it is there for ;)

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Geoff_W on Mar 27^th, 2006, 1:21am

Me to.

Step forward the clever one then

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Daven on Mar 27^th, 2006, 6:34am

Paul - what ever it is for, it looks a bit grubby for your car ;) ;D

Dave

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Simmo on Mar 27^th, 2006, 6:45am

Paul, the wiring diagram for headlamp washers seems to show the connections as having a black/yellow wire. Any help or do you have them fitted?.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Baz on Mar 27^th, 2006, 7:07am

The headlamp washers are not electric. They use the force of water pressure generated by the big pump sat in the washer bottle. There are only water pipes going to the jets!

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Simmo on Mar 27^th, 2006, 7:21am

Thank you Baz. Just re-checked the diagram and the text refers to the 'Pump' which is obviously the unit in the bottle not the actual jet mechanism. We live and learn!.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by big_neil on Mar 27^th, 2006, 7:42am

my car is a dec 98 24v ultima and has none of these connectors at the front valance. it does have a diagnostic port with a red plug in though.(my garage man says its probably a port for testing the climate or air con.the red port that is)

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Dave on Mar 27^th, 2006, 8:38am

Apparently, and I don't know if this refers to the plug pictured, but some (all?) Fords have 2 plugs that you can connect to make the cooling fan run all the time. This is for carrying out work on the engine when it needs to be running for long periods without moving.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Pegasus on Mar 27^th, 2006, 12:00pm

on 03/27/06 at 06:34:56, Daven wrote:

Paul - what ever it is for, it looks a bit grubby for your car ;) ;D

Dave

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Sorry Dave(n), I'll try to do better ;)

Thanks All for replies. Dave's info on the fans sounds promising

Paul

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Daven on Mar 27^th, 2006, 12:23pm

Does make you wonder why a plug is left un-protected from the elements ???

Dave

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 13^th, 2006, 10:47am

Mines got one of these as well.

Anybody any clearer about what this connector does?

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Baz on Apr 14^th, 2006, 3:38pm

ejrctor seat?

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 14^th, 2006, 7:15pm

hi there

is this not the plug for the fully automatic climate control. :-/

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 14^th, 2006, 7:43pm

Lasers?

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 14^th, 2006, 7:45pm

Sorry mine had them as well and often wondered ???, I thought they may have been for headlamp wipers but then remembered there has never been any but I might have been wrong. :P

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 15^th, 2006, 9:26pm

JohnJ I prefer your first thought.

Perhaps for the Anti Radar/Gatso Missiles or for powering the rotisserie on the optional barbeque. Barry, what do you think? And if it is really not being used, what can we do with them?

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Pegasus on Apr 16^th, 2006, 8:50pm

on 04/14/06 at 19:15:32, scorpio_man wrote:

is this not the plug for the fully automatic climate control. :-/

Got that already :)

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 17^th, 2006, 8:46am

hi there

are you sure? :-/
never heard of someone with it. will be a first. most of the ultima's have semi automatic climate control. the fully automatic control reacts to pollution etc, switching on the recirc to keep it out of the car etc. can't seem to find where i read about, though. :(

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 17^th, 2006, 8:49am

And engages recirc when you select reverse gear so that you do not suck in your exhaust fumes as you reverse over them. Or was that the Seat Ibiza ;D

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 17^th, 2006, 9:30am

WOuld it be an after thought, some Scorpio came with reversing radar, maybe they where thinking of putting the same on the front.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Spannerdemon on Apr 17^th, 2006, 11:10am

Yesterday I would have wished it was for Front Mounted machine Guns, to eliminate the moronic clown who carved me up here in Torquay!!

Now THERE'S a thought!!

Ebay here I come!! ;) ;)

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by sector-9 on Apr 18^th, 2006, 9:41pm

Well it's got a ground wire and they're thicker than wires used for sensors so I assume it powers a small motor or a solenoid of some description. Also it seems to be in a separate loom which runs back through the bulkhead on the driver's side (most of the engine electrics go through the passenger side). It could be for special applications such as police (blue light maybe?), but I really don't know.

Darren

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Daven on Apr 19^th, 2006, 2:29pm

So who is going to be brave and connect a meter to it to see if it's live? :) ;)

Dave

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 19^th, 2006, 3:02pm

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Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 19^th, 2006, 6:12pm

Well putting a meter on it set to Volt DC should not do any harm as you are not creating any resistance accross anything but what would it proove if you did find 12v on it.
As for being for something for the Police I doubt it as that would proove un-economical as such few cars was used for the police.
I'm at a loss what they are for.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by sector-9 on Apr 19^th, 2006, 7:51pm

I'll stick a meter across it when I get chance - there's a couple of other connectors I'd like to identify too (unless anyone knows what they do already); one is a small two pin connector near the ABS modulator - I assume it would connect to washer fluid sensor if I had one. The other is above the radiator and is a square four pin connector with a red plastic cap fitted to keep it clean.

Anybody know?

Darren

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Snoopy on Apr 20^th, 2006, 7:47am

The one with the red plastic cap is AFAIK what was part of the older type of diagnostics for the car. it enabled the mechanics to plug service tools in and operate the starter and things . Not really delved into it . there may well be a three pin one on the nearside innner wing as well.

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 20^th, 2006, 8:21am

Ahaa. I knew Snoopy would know what they where for. ;D

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Daven on Apr 20^th, 2006, 8:25am

on 04/19/06 at 18:12:38, JohnJ wrote:

Well putting a meter on it set to Volt DC should not do any harm as you are not creating any resistance accross anything but what would it proove if you did find 12v on it.

True - but tracing it back to a circuit could be tricky - only way I know would be to pull fuses or relays and switching each aux circuit on and off! Knowing the voltage and amps would be useful I guess!

If I had the odd spare day...... ;)

Daven

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Pegasus on Apr 20^th, 2006, 12:55pm

on 04/17/06 at 08:46:15, scorpio_man wrote:

Yep, you're right - my mistake ???

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by mr._floppy on Apr 20^th, 2006, 2:07pm

Thought it was obvious, in some countries a reflective front number plate is not enough, it must be illuminated.

Is there a prize for the correct answer ? :-*

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by JohnJ on Apr 20^th, 2006, 11:28pm

your being super sarcastic now. :P

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by sector-9 on Apr 21^st, 2006, 10:30pm

'fraid not Floppy. I metered my connector tonight and no matter what circuit I tried it didn't go live at all. Mind you, my car is more or less base spec so there's a lot it doesn't have.

Had a look at the wiring diagrams and I'm wondering if it could be the compressor motor for self-levelling suspension? Yes, I know the estates had self levelling rear dampers but they weren't electrically operated. However the Granadas had a small compressor mounted behind the front bumper which fed air to the rear dampers. The wire colours are correct, however the diagram shows the compressor having a four-way connector - the remaining two wires operate a relief solenoid to dump system pressure - unless Ford moved this solenoid elsewhere on the Scorpios. Wonder if Ford ever offered this electrical system on the first Scorpios; would explain why it was deleted from the later models.

Darren

Title: Re: What's this connector for?
Post by Octavian_P on Apr 22^nd, 2006, 9:59am

In a software with car parts on the scorpio there is an air compressor for the rear susspension