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(Message started by: wickedteen on Aug 29^th, 2006, 7:13pm)

Title: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Aug 29^th, 2006, 7:13pm

my cosworth ultima gearbox died, so had it recondition, so far it has been back and forward to the garage with problems, the main culprit is banging into 3rd gear, then while cruising will drop not into 3rd gear but kinda sit between 3rd and 4th, then when you lift your foot of the gas it goes back into 4th, now this only happens when the engine is totaly upto temp, when it is cold it is great, but now im getting fedup, ive had no cossie for a month and the garage is getting quite annoyed.
this has cost me £900, now someone has said to me it sounds like the radiator is blocked, but how do i prove this without them ripping me off for a new radiator for about £300 maybe more, help me please.........................................................

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by solarpanel on Aug 29^th, 2006, 7:51pm

what year is the car,ive 97 23 estate the box has been recon but has got some problems in the harness the auto gearbox man told me that he has spent several hours searching for faults on scorpios.

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Aug 29^th, 2006, 8:13pm

the car is a 95 2.9 24v, theres no problems with the harness, its been well looked after

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 29^th, 2006, 8:20pm

hi there

was the torque convertor changed at the same time as the gearbox? sounds like it isn't locking up. :-/

also check that all temp sensors are ok, as the gearbox doesn't lock while cold.

hth

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Aug 29^th, 2006, 8:29pm

yup torque convertor was changed, new one fitted, theres no problem when its cold, only when it gets to driving temp

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 29^th, 2006, 8:40pm

hi there

have you had a obd-2 scan done? it might bring something up.

still would have a look at all wiring. '95 wasn't a good year for wiring. ;)

hth

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Aug 29^th, 2006, 8:48pm

the obd-2 scan which i saw done a while back, i think on its second return, through up the emergency code, ie, running in emergency code so as not to go into 4th gear.
also i dont know if this any help, but when the car is a driving temp, the wings and front of the car are very hot, sometimes to hot to touch, which why i think it maybe the rad??????????????

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by Baw_Flinger on Aug 31^st, 2006, 8:08am

Have the garage checked the number 3 shift solanoid, that would explain a code. Then again the other problems dont seem to have bearing on this.

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Aug 31^st, 2006, 4:21pm

they have so far changed all the solanoids, so im still confused ???

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by Oatcakes on Sep 2^nd, 2006, 6:27pm

have you tried replacing the airflow meter ??? that can affect the gearbox, our cossie has eaten three boxes but this last time we out a brand new box in which has just gone bang so we had it recondishoned and put a new airflow meter on just in case
on 08/29/06 at 19:13:36, wickedteen wrote:

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 2^nd, 2006, 9:22pm

just a quick update, i was in the car today and noticed that other than it not wanting 4th when hot, but also noticed it going into 4th then the speedo would go a little erratic then slip back between 4th and 3rd, does narrow it down a llittle for anybody, cheers guys/gals

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 2^nd, 2006, 10:33pm

I wander if the VSS is playing up, it's the vehicle speed sensor, mounteon on the gearbox

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 3^rd, 2006, 10:59am

is this sensor the same in all the scorpio gearboxes, or would it have to be a specific one, cheers

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by Snoopy on Sep 3^rd, 2006, 2:14pm

Same for all variants of the Scorpio 94 on....

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 3^rd, 2006, 5:23pm

great that should save some money, cheers for your help, i shall update you all when the vss is changed

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 5^th, 2006, 6:52pm

i have just replaced the MAF sensor and it didnt make a blind bit of difference, so now im really confused, help required urgently.

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by Highlander on Sep 5^th, 2006, 11:13pm

Did you replace the VSS?

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 6^th, 2006, 7:06am

not as yet, i need to get the back end of the car up quite high so as not to let all the gear oil pour out, so i shall get it done tomorrow

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 7^th, 2006, 2:25pm

still had the VSS done yet, not had time, but does any one know were and how it would cost to have the wireing checked, im near stevenage, cheers all

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 8^th, 2006, 4:36pm

well today i replaced the VSS sensor and can tell you now that mine was as rough as hell, felt like it was turning on a lump of grit, well i used a old one that was still in my old 2litre box as they all the same and a new one would cost £69, but anyway, it still dosnt go in fourth gear although the speedo isnt eractic anymore and also with changing the MAF sensor aswell its got all of its glorious power back, but whistlest undernegh we found a OIL LEAK, yes you guessed it ive got gear oil coming out of the bell housing, so i suppose you could say that the gearbox company do not know what they are doing, please tell me if you like to know who they are so you should not make the mistake of going to them with your cossie.

so next week i shall be drafting up the paperwork for the small claims court to get my £900 back from them, as now they wont even speak with me ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: auto gearbox problem
Post by wickedteen on Sep 19^th, 2006, 1:09pm

so on monday i shall be presenting court papers to ACC autotransmission in CHESHUNT, i would advise never take your scorpio there as they dont know what they are doing and take your £900 then tell you were to go, so know im telling them were to go and thats to court, wish me luck, cheers guys for all your help