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(Message started by: David_Balcon on Oct 9^th, 2006, 2:15pm)

Title: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by David_Balcon on Oct 9^th, 2006, 2:15pm

Hi All

Well I picked up my first Scorpio today, a 1995 24V Ultima Estate with 69K miles on it in what looks to be pretty good condition (apart from a bit of scabbing on the lower edge of the sills)

The car has only got one key with it, no red key and no remotes. Is this going to cause me problems? If so is a very expensive to put right.

I intend this to be a long term purchase, it's going in for an LPG conversion on Thursday. So I'd rather sort any issues out sooner rather than later.

David

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Spannerdemon on Oct 9^th, 2006, 2:28pm

WELCOME DAVID.

You can get a new Red Key from a Ford Dealer if you can prove ownership of the vehicle. It will have to be coded to the PATS (Security) module by them.

Read this: http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm

You'd be wise to get one. because you'll need it to programme remote control units and spare keys. You can then use your 'normal key' for all other use.

I keep my red key safely locked away, and the only time I'd carry it with me is if, say, we took the car abroad, just in case of problems or loss of the nother keys.

You say you are looking at the car as a long term car, so I'd definitely buy one myself.

I THINK BAZ has LPG.....not sure...... ;D ;D

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Dave on Oct 9^th, 2006, 7:32pm

Hi David, welcome to the site :)

As above Ford can supply a replacement red key for your car.

Snoopy (Dave, a member on here) has posted these details in the past:

http://www.home-own.co.uk/ala/

They are locksmiths who supply 1 red key and black keys for about £60 as here (3rd post):

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1143322068;start=2#2

As for remotes, any Scorpio remote can be programmed to your car yourself. Look out for ones for sale on here, post in the wanted section or have a look on eBay to see whats about.

Hope this helps :)

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by craig on Oct 9^th, 2006, 8:06pm

on 10/09/06 at 14:28:03, Spannerdemon wrote:

You'd be wise to get one. because you'll need it to programme remote control units and spare keys. You can then use your 'normal key' for all other use.

sorry to correct,but just to clarify 1 thing,you wont need the master key to programme the remote to the car,you can read how easy it is to programme the remote HERE (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/remote.htm)

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by twinturbo on Oct 9^th, 2006, 8:06pm

I still need to get mine coede.. Ford said £65 for all three keys.

Replacement genuine keys ( red or black ) are ~18+vat from ford.

Replacement fobs about £85+vat

TT

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Spannerdemon on Oct 9^th, 2006, 9:19pm

Hi Craig: Yeah I didn't word that very well, but he can programme his remotes from an already programmed key (which presumably is what he has), but to be on the safe side as far as his PATS goes, he'd be wise (I think) to get a new set made up and programmed.

Hope you're OK. How are you enjoying the Livebox? :D

All the best SD

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Baz on Oct 10^th, 2006, 12:52am

Mine does have LPG (did I mention that before?) but still has the broken gearbox and still not got time to fix it so still in a bloody transit van!!

Life is a pig!

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Spannerdemon on Oct 10^th, 2006, 4:26am

Nice to see you back Baz. Thought you'd half-deserted us!! ;D

Hope you get it sorted soon.

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by David_Balcon on Oct 10^th, 2006, 9:39am

Thanks for all your input guys; from what you've said I guess I'd better make it down to the dealers for a new key set and a reprogramme. I've got to pop in to pick up my battery cover today (why do these go missing?).

I've had a go at clearing the bulkhead drain holes, the drivers side was a pig, the battery side is a big slot so was easy (or did I miss the batteryside hole altogether?)

The rev counter went all over the place after the car was sitting in the rain overnight but has calmed down now. I've WD40'd everything under the bonnet and fingers crossed.

David

Title: Re: Scorpio First Timer Keys Question
Post by Simmo on Oct 10^th, 2006, 10:15am

This (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) may help re the battery side. The dials'flicking round' is a sign of battery problems or as you obviously suspect water ingress. Its mentioned in the article. You can use a hairdryer....gently..... on the fuseboxes and some owners put a sachet of 'silica gel' in them to keep moisture at bay.