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(Message started by: Octavian_P on Nov 6^th, 2006, 2:23pm)

Title: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 6^th, 2006, 2:23pm

Hello to all
Sorry for the long story but please read

As you all probably know i have a 2.3 16v Scorpio. With proper maintenance (and a verry small budget) i have been able to restore it to a better shape than it was. It took me about 2 years to make it ok.

Now i am facing a new chalange

My parents had a "dacia supernova"....a romanian car powerd by a clio engine which had a laguna gearbox.....
....lets' say it wasn't a "car"

They now have sold it. I thought of something, giveing them the 2.3 and and with the money from the dacia and with a substantial difference of cash to buy another scorpio, this time the "dream version" meaning you guess what .....a cosworth.

The problem is that things got from bad to worse. The car that i want to buy stood un-moved for about 3 months, the battery was flat. Now the battery has been charged and it's running. Today it's owner took it to the MOT, it passed on all but one problem, emissions were way to big. It shoud have been a 0.5 and it was 2 .....4 times more than normal. The car was put on the OBD, no fault codes, engines purrs and smooth as silk, accelerates like crazzy, full of torque...etc. Gearbox changes perfect, verry smooth etc. The cat's weren't hit and they don't chuffle, so they don't seem to be totaly out of order. The car has about 85.000 miles on the clock, has some partial service history, has now shock absorbers, new steering rack, letaher interior (nice and clean), cd-changer with 7000 series radio, new oxigen sensors. It was well looked after and belongs to another member on this forum which wrote of the fuel pressure regulator problem on the cossie that wouldn't start when hot. Eaven with the bad FPR which was pouring way to much fuel, the car did pas MOT (2 years ago), and soon after that it was fixed. Beside this it has the "specific chain rattle", but has a prelube kit that makes it rattle just for a small time. The cosworth's are verry rare in Romania, and this one was well maintained.

What should i check.....the price of a new cat is way beyond my budged....and i need two of them (aprox. 1200 euros)

Thank You !!!

Later edit: (a lot of typing errors fixed ;D)

Title: Re: Help !!!
Post by Dave on Nov 6^th, 2006, 3:27pm

Hi there,

its worth checking that there are no air leaks around and underneath the inlet manifolds as this can upset the fuelling. This includes the lines, gaskets and O rings.

How does it idle?

Cheers

Title: Re: Help !!!
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 6^th, 2006, 6:34pm

Well, i have the car in the parking lot now, it iddles like has no engine ;) ....meaning perfect, if i floor it it does like a beast.....i'm in love with it.......

Title: Re: Help !!!
Post by Dave on Nov 6^th, 2006, 6:43pm

Good man :D

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 6^th, 2006, 6:54pm

Thank you Dave ! will try to sort out the emissions now....

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 6^th, 2006, 7:20pm

Top man, good luck with it ;)

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Matt on Nov 6^th, 2006, 7:38pm

congrats on the cossie!

i hope your friends with the local fule station though lol!

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by twinturbo on Nov 6^th, 2006, 7:41pm

CATS may look good but the core may have totaly blown away. I have a cat that is totaly empty, as does cossie_Al...

You can buy them for £80 each in the UK...

TT

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:12pm

From 2007 now that Romania enters in Europe, i hope that i will see England and drink a beer with all of you ;D. I only know England and Scotland from movies .... :(

Maybe i'll come on a trip on the holydays, do a euro trip, see some contries meet some fine gents like you.....and why not....buy thoes blasted cats ;D

Later edit: i'll take some pics of my new pride and joy....and post them here.....

PS: did i mention that it works like a dream, fingers crossed ;D

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Geoff_W on Nov 6^th, 2006, 11:12pm

Hey well done, another two Scorpio family, hope it all works out well, you have already put in a lot of time with your 2.3, hopefully the Cosworth will be kind ;)

Geoff

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 10^th, 2006, 2:01pm

Here they are my cossie and the 2.3 (the blue one is the cossie and the green one is the 2.3)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0004-1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0003.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0015.jpg

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Dave on Nov 10^th, 2006, 2:43pm

What a great pair of cars, nice pics mate :D

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 10^th, 2006, 4:17pm

Sorry for the dirty looking stuff, but i don't have a garage, and a car in Bucharest can't stay clean form more than 3 days :P

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 10^th, 2006, 4:36pm

The state blue cossie looks lovely, the 7 spokes really suit the Scorpio I think, as much as the 12's do. That's how mine looks when it's clean, when it gets a clean he says...

Regards, Bruce.

p.s. A side on shot of one of the wheels would be great to use for the model if you get the time Octavian, would be appreciated ;)

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 10^th, 2006, 5:13pm

Tiberius does this two help ?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0005.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0024-1.jpg

I'll do others if needed, just love taking pictures of the lovley scorpios ;D

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 10^th, 2006, 6:03pm

lol mate, one like this would help:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/12Spokewheel.jpg

Don't worry, you'll get credit ;)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 10^th, 2006, 8:20pm

OK i'll do it mate :D

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 10^th, 2006, 10:15pm

Cheers :D. Just need a decent square-on image I can airbrush into a good texture for the wheels on the Racer Scorpio with Richard's front bodykit. When I get them meshed you'll be able to see them in rendered up in 3D ;)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 13^th, 2006, 7:54pm

OK, i need a few advices and not to open a new thread i'll continue here.

My cossie has the timing chain rattle. On the car it has been fitted a pre-lube kit, which is a pressure tank that holds oil. When i flick a switch it makes almoust instant oil presure and fills up tensioners. Well the problem is that eaven using this device on cold mornings the rattle staies for half a second to 2-3 seconds. In this moment i don't have the cash to get the problem fixed (change chains, blades, tensioners). My question is what oil will be better ? higher viscosity will drain harder but takes longer to pressure up, thin oil builds faster the prssure but also will probably darin in a shorter time. I know that ford recomands 5W-30, i was thniking of choosing 0W-40 for example, to give better protection at startup....

PS: Bruce, haven't forgot about pictureing the rims, but i had some verry busy days and now they are also verry verry dirty..... :P

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Dave on Nov 14^th, 2006, 8:00am

When was the oil last changed? You may find that an oil change using a decent brand and good filter cures it. Changing the oil and filter every 3-4k on mine quietened it considerably, making me think it didn't have good enough oil in before.

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 14^th, 2006, 9:37am

Thanks Dave for the tip, the oil has only about 1 k done, but it's older then a year.... Probably i'll go buy some good syntetic stuff :)

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Dave on Nov 14^th, 2006, 10:19am

Yeah the oil will have degraded due to the low mileage, a chance will do it good :)

How is the Cosworth beast? 8)

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 14^th, 2006, 7:08pm

on 11/14/06 at 10:19:17, Dave wrote:

How is the Cosworth beast? 8)

Well a lot is in project for it. I am waiting for the delivery of new brake disks, some bushes, and a wheel hub cap. Also discovered that the engine breathing hose that is attached to the air filter and has (had) a sponge fitted...which has melted and all the oil vapors ended up on the air filter which is nice and black...., also did a bit of modding, I have added a lighted mirror sun visor instead of the drivers plain one. Tried also to fix the rds 7000 that always comes on.....Now I know what its' problem is :)....what can I say ....it keeps me very busy....., I still need 2 front tires, and the alloys straightened. I must add that the 17" wheels are a pain comparing with the 2.3's 15 inch rims. You can crack the rocks in your kidneys whit them. I still need to fix the passenger side mirror that doesn't want to move at all, get some cream on the leather seats to keep them nice and smooth....slowly but steady I hope I’ll restore it to a better shape as i did with the 2.3...
Beside this it's a lovely motor, today i had the chance of selecting "S" mode and open full throttle....it was madness...the cosworth engine is pure music to may ears....this is the first car that i drive and don't want to listen to music...I just want to hear it roar.

PS: almost forgot....and those blasted bulbs that keep burning out each day.... :)

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 20^th, 2006, 2:35pm

on 11/10/06 at 22:15:34, TiberiuS wrote:

Sorry that it took me ages, but...i finnaly managed to "snap them"

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0056.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/Octavian_P/IMAG0057.jpg

Cheers

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 20^th, 2006, 3:02pm

Aye. Top man :D

They are perfect, will make a very nice set of rims ;)

Give me a few days and you'll see them in virtual 3D 8)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 20^th, 2006, 10:19pm

Had a couple of hours this evening so got them meshed in 3D. See what you think:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/Smokestone3.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/Smokestone4.jpg

I love the detail on the rims, like the soft edges and the way each spoke broadens torwards the back where it meets the rim. Textures need revising a bit but the really suit the Scorpio in my opinion 8)

Hoping to get the final version of the model out soon if anybody is still interested, done some rework on the handling and it now has working headlights, blurred motion wheels and some other goodies, a real virtual model worthy of the Scorpio name I hope :)

It will have setups for all the engine types, 2.0, TD etc and there will also be the estate version. Oh, and the 24v at the moment has the 4.27 diff, lots of fun on the corners, cheers Highlander ;)

Any help on it still appreciated, if anyone wants to donate any photos of any colour they would like included and also some sounds would be nice if anyone has the time, esp. for the cossie and TD.

Lots of work and lots of credits in the readme ::)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Bren on Nov 21^st, 2006, 8:46am

Notice the Mk 3 and a Rover 2000 in the back of the 3rd picture

Bren

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by Octavian_P on Nov 21^st, 2006, 12:30pm

Verry nice done Bruce, i love the way it looks. Can you give me the link to latest verison ? I have searched a bit on the forum (official of racer) but there are several car topics.

Cheers

Title: Re: Help !!! Later Edit: second scorpio (Cosworth)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 21^st, 2006, 4:37pm

The new version isn't released yet, getting close but still got a few things to sort out. You'll be the first to know when it is, I'll update the thread over here before it gets uploaded. Still a few things about the model I'm not 100% happy with.

Regards, Bruce :).