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(Message started by: paulw on Nov 7th, 2006, 5:46pm)

Title: 2.3  Ultima Estate Auto O/D  ??
Post by paulw on Nov 7th, 2006, 5:46pm
Hi everyone,
 Have driven a Granada 2.0 Estate for over 6 years,
best car I`ve ever had ,in every way. Have only ever opened bonnet to check oil etc then quickly shut it again. The garage has done what little else has been
needed.
I am now considering a `98 2.3 Ultima estate Auto O/D, with 111k miles on the  clock. What are the worst things
that might happen? I have heard that the auto-box
may give trouble, and also, slightly less of a worry,
the head gasket .

Anyone with any expert advice ?

Title: Re: 2.3  Ultima Estate Auto O/D  ??
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 7th, 2006, 6:25pm
Hi Paul,

Autobox is no better or worse than many others, unfortunately the mileage on the car means the box has done well, and I beleive there is a problem with Inlet Manifolds cracking on these engines too.  I'm an ex auto box man though so haven't had a lot of experience re this particular engine.

As far as the Transmission goes though, if it is driving ok in all the gears, remove the pan, change the fluid and filter, clean the pan and magnet and put it back with a new gasket.  This will significantly extend the life of the gearbox.   ;)  

Don't do what most people do and wait till its playing up, do this as preventative maintenance, not as a cure.  

Once they are playing up it is a downhill slope,   :'(  and time for a professional re - build.  Beware of the cheapies, and don't even think of going to Mr Clutch LOL !!  }{ }{ }{

Hope this helps, and good luck with the car.

Regards,

Title: Re: 2.3  Ultima Estate Auto O/D  ??
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 7th, 2006, 6:39pm
Hello Paul and welcome aboard ;)

Things to look out for when buying a Scorpio:

- Autobox, pull the dipstick (the black one on the left, the yellow one's engine oil) and check the colour of the fluid; it should be red/pink, if it looks more the colour of engine oil and smells burnt then be very wary or walk away. This is the best indication of the condition of the 'box. Try and get it on a decent test drive and take notice how the gears engage, notice if there are any thumps and see how long it takes to engage D or R from P; the longer it takes the more worn the autobox is.

- Rust, all cars get some rust as they get old but later Scorpios can have bad areas (even my June '96 P reg has more than average). Places to check (from experience, but on the saloon though) are the door edges, door bottoms, boot edges, rear wheelarches where they meet the rear bumper.

- Head gasket can fail, as can the cylinder head itself but it seems most Zetec engined Fords are prone to this (my Cousin's 2.0 Mondeo has just blown a head gasket). Check the coolant for level and traces of oil floating on top and take off the oil filler cap and check inside for 'mayo' if you're worried about any leaks.

- May be worth checking that the AC works (not major but it can get expensive on any car), with the car warmed up, set it to LO and then HI and see how cold/hot it gets.

- Also worth checking how well all the electrical gizmos are working (windows, central locking, audio system etc). Not fatal but could save you some headaches later on. Have a good read through this site before you commit yourself to anything.

It can be a pain but the 2.3 is a nice engine, much smoother and refined than other Ford 4 pot units and the Scorpio is a nice drive, a genuine improvement on the Granny.

Bit of a ramble but hope this helps you, others will be able give advice too. These are the things I check when browsing motors ;)

Good luck.

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: 2.3  Ultima Estate Auto O/D  ??
Post by Highlander on Nov 7th, 2006, 6:43pm
Give it a good check over, test drive and get an OBD scan done on it if you can before you buy it.
Check the autobox fluid!

Other than that its pay your money and take your chance  ;D

Have a look here

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/advice.htm



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