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(Message started by: pedropedro on Dec 31st, 2006, 3:42pm)

Title: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Dec 31st, 2006, 3:42pm
Ive wondered why the remote is so bad and the "conductive" contacts/buttons are the problem...if you measure with an ohmeter, resistance is around 1k with probes 2mm apart when good...conductive paint doesnt stay put for long...maybe folk know this already

cut x3 neat squares of kitchen foil about 4mm sq and with small drop of superglue on each button spread evenly  and fit on...press down with finger..leave for 30 secs  ...its a tad fiddly... BUT
range is now maybe 15m  opposed to 2m



Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by TiberiuS on Dec 31st, 2006, 5:11pm
Good stuff for worn switch membranes too is self adhesive aluminium shielding tape...you can get a roll from Maplin for a couple of quid, about 20mm wide; I use it when I make audio cables, works well ;).

Done a couple of typewriter keyboards with it too; keypad repair paint is great but it's £15 a jar and once you mix it you can't save any...

Happy new year :)

Regards, Bruce.  

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 1st, 2007, 10:11am
yes I am sure that works well too....

happy New Year John

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by mr._floppy on Jan 1st, 2007, 12:01pm
The downside  with the foil trick is that the foil  will eventually  part company with the pads  and cause  a barrowload of  trouble when operating the remote.

 I've tried all  types of  glues  with varying degress of success.

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 1st, 2007, 12:05pm
Thanks...I will keep a weekly eye on the insides.......john

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by Johnboy on Jan 3rd, 2007, 4:43pm
Had a look at this problem.
On the one I have. I had to stand right upto the drivers glass to make it work.
So, took it apart and was going to use the foil trick. Didn't really want to. So, had a look at the circuit board and noticed a few small black marks on the contacts.
Using some of the Mr's cotton buds on a stick thingys, wiped over the  contacts on the board. Used about ten of them it was amazing how much dirt comes off these things.
Put it all back together again and hey presto! It works like new. I can open and close the scorp form the other side of the road now.
It worked for me so give it a go and let me know if it works for you.
I have even tried the fob in my pocket and like magic it works.

Good luck

John

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 3rd, 2007, 6:35pm
dont do the foil trick..as Mr floppy says it parts company as i dicovered today ! doors locking/unlocking whilst zipping along

the gold contacts get covered with the carbon from the buttons ..yes ive cleaned mine with acetone makes a big difference but if could get contact resistance down on the button would solve full stop.....will try mixing some silver conductive paint  with some adhesive tomorrow

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 3rd, 2007, 6:53pm
That's why I use the self adhesive stuff mate, doesn't fold over so easily and the adhesive backing sticks better. Done quite a few remotes/keypads with it now and yet to have a problem...

Cleaning the contacts won't last for long, once the moisture wears off the carbon contacts start to lose their surface again, I've tried that one more than once. If you're convinced the foil causes problems then get hold of some of the 2 part carbon keypad repair, will cost you £15 but will fix the problem.

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 3rd, 2007, 7:18pm
where can you get the 2 part carbon repair kit..cant find in maplin website..tried search but cant locate in this country at least

tks john

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by harry.m1byt on Jan 3rd, 2007, 8:30pm

on 01/03/07 at 19:18:31, pedropedro wrote:
where can you get the 2 part carbon repair kit..cant find in maplin website..tried search but cant locate in this country at least

tks john


Just a thought...

Has anyone thought to try mixing up some Superglue with carbon dust then dabbing that on the buttons?

Carbon dust as in - sanded down from motor brushes or even a soft pencil.



Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by Tompion on Jan 4th, 2007, 3:56am
RS list it:
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home.do?returningUser=N&cacheID=uknetscape

enter CW2605 into the find product box

Dave

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by Daven on Jan 4th, 2007, 7:59am

on 01/03/07 at 20:30:35, harry.m1byt wrote:
Just a thought...

Has anyone thought to try mixing up some Superglue with carbon dust then dabbing that on the buttons?

Carbon dust as in - sanded down from motor brushes or even a soft pencil.



Yep - tried it - it don't work! Bought a new one in the end!

Dave

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by youmitegetian on Jan 7th, 2007, 5:23pm
Tried cleaning my remote with contact cleaner to see if it made it better, it did't, and now the remote doesn't work at all, is there anyway to test them??

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by harry.m1byt on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:03pm

on 01/07/07 at 17:23:13, youmitegetian wrote:
Tried cleaning my remote with contact cleaner to see if it made it better, it did't, and now the remote doesn't work at all, is there anyway to test them??


A radio scanner would pick it up, but the transmission is very brief so we need some basic idea of the frequency first. I am reasonably sure it is not 432MHz - I hear my other remotes on there, but not the Scorps remote.

That would be the easy way to at least proove they are transmitting.

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 8th, 2007, 11:39am
testing of the buttons is relatively easy...you will need a multi meter

put probes across a button with approx 3mm ( not critcal but useful to have a reference distance as resistance will vary with a change of  distance between probes tips )

should expect to see max 500R  (ohms)    .5K

Title: Re: remote keyfob
Post by pedropedro on Jan 8th, 2007, 4:08pm
Bruce

if you read this thanks for advice re keyboard repair paint

cleaned buttons with acetone so all old carbon removed , put thin film of the mixed paint on each button ......now resistance is down to zero across the button perfect...seems flexible and yet tough

thanks for advice

John



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