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(Message started by: jonnycab on Feb 27^th, 2007, 12:13pm)

Title: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by jonnycab on Feb 27^th, 2007, 12:13pm

Just a thought...

The new (secondhand) inlet manifold that I've fitted is fine. But incase I should get anymore grief in the future, I was wondering.......

..............If the 2.0 inlet manifold was fitted to the 2.3, what differences would be felt in perfomance etc ? & do all the pipes EGR etc fit the same way ? :)

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by scorpio_man on Feb 27^th, 2007, 1:22pm

hi jc

matt has done this conversion. see http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin4;action=display;num=1172304391

hth

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Matt on Feb 27^th, 2007, 6:44pm

hey jonnycab,

the egr is the same, but the coolant and vaccume pipes are diffrent/ need to be modified.

you'll need to 'T' one of the vaccume pipes as there isnt enough outlets on the 2.0 intake. the trickest parts are getting the block oil breather to fit and then theres 2 vaccume pipes which fit under the intake.

throttal cable swaps straigh over and all the air intake stuff does aswell.

the 2.3 has a single 60mm throttal body

the 2.0 has two 50mm throttal bodies, so it'll suck in a bit more air.

i used the 2.3 maff and the other little sensor that fits in one of the intake pipes (for get whats thats called :S)

you will also need to change the idle controll valve to one that has the plug 90 degress to it otherwise the plug will hit the bonet. you'll also need to extend the wireing

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Simmo on Feb 27^th, 2007, 8:41pm

The sensor in the inlet pipe is This one (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/iatdata.htm) I think you mean.

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Matt on Feb 27^th, 2007, 9:11pm

yep, thats the fella, thanks simmo

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by jonnycab on Feb 28^th, 2007, 2:18am

Cheers guys...good advice :)

Matt........If it comes down to it & I do decide to put the 2.0 manifold on, then I hope you don't mind a few PMs ;)

P.S.....Matt...was there any noticable difference in using the 2.0 manifold... ie....was MPG/performance better or worse.
I'm wondering whether Ford may have made a major 'faux pas' in putting that fancy looking piece of plastic on the 2.3 when the reliable 2.0 cast metal one would have been as good...if not better ?

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by RichardMS on Feb 28^th, 2007, 10:54pm

Matt, How about some pics and some words on the conversion 8)

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Matt on Mar 1^st, 2007, 6:28pm

jonnycab,

i dont mind a few pm's, were on here to help each other :P

as for the mpg value, i dont know, i bought the car with a cracked head so couldnt drive it round, and havent experienced a 'standard' 2.3 to compair. having a slightly bigger air intake i would of though it would be a bit more powerful. it does go well, me and my dad have a heavy aright foot which doesnt help the mpg values lol but it will get to a 70mph (+30mph :p) pretty quickly ;)

didnt take any pics of during the conversion sadly (sorry guys) but heres 2 of the finished result

http://i11.tinypic.com/2rcbafk.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/40cnapt.jpg

i took the rocker cover and the cam chain cover to work and sand blasted them, hence they look so clean ;D

i'll go through the pdf manuals on the main site and try and do a conversion guide or at least give you some idea of the piping up

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by jonnycab on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 2:09am

A conversion guide would be a great idea Matt.....I look forward to reading it :)

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by RichardMS on Mar 3^rd, 2007, 9:30pm

on 03/02/07 at 02:09:23, jonnycab wrote:

A conversion guide would be a great idea Matt.....I look forward to reading it :)

Same here, BTW Matt, Now you have sandblasted them you should polish them ;D

http://usera.imagecave.com/RichardMS/Scorpio2/2006_0922Image0006-copy.jpg

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Matt on Mar 4^th, 2007, 1:33pm

lol richard, only if you build me a body kit for it ;)

ive found some of the bits in the pdf files on the site, now i need to work out how to make a simple conversion guide

Title: Re: 2.0 inlet manifold on a 2.3 ?
Post by Matt on Mar 24^th, 2007, 10:58am

hi all

can you believe this topic is already 3 pages back :o

right, sorry its been a while but heres a few pics that may be usefull

rear connection to the vaccume
http://sixteensixtyfour.co.uk/Gallery/albums/userpics/2.jpg

next 2 pics are extensions sensor in the intake pipe
http://sixteensixtyfour.co.uk/Gallery/albums/userpics/3.jpg
http://sixteensixtyfour.co.uk/Gallery/albums/userpics/4.jpg

big pic of the layout, ignor the white and black plug in the intake on the top, there was a hole in the pipe and the cover i made fell off lol

i do have a small sound bite of it running if any one is intrested, i need to find a way of uploading onto the site or i can just email it you, it's in .mp4 format which opens in quicktime player

http://sixteensixtyfour.co.uk/Gallery/albums/userpics/Photo-0052.jpg