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(Message started by: dan_the_man on Apr 14^th, 2007, 7:58pm)

Title: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 14^th, 2007, 7:58pm

are the K and N filters any good ? are they worth the 45 bux ! ;) Does anyone know a good-cheap place to purchase one . (24v) thank's for reading my post. ;D

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 14^th, 2007, 8:18pm

hi there

is that a panel filter or cone/induction filter?

i've got a cone/induction filter on my 2.3. makes a nice noise. ;)

you'll save on not having to replace it anymore.

made it from a cone from jetex (http://www.jetex.co.uk/index.php)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/scorpio_man/scorpio%20bits/conicalangledchromelarge.jpg

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by craig on Apr 15^th, 2007, 8:00am

i have a K and N on mine,OK £38.00 was a bit pricey,but like Andrew says it never needs replacing,so that saves £13.00 a year....
have a noticed a difference :-/
but yes,it does sound a little better

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by TiberiuS on Apr 15^th, 2007, 10:29am

From what I've heard they don't give much power wise, about 2% if you're lucky :-/. To get more you'd have to rework the inlet system, bored out throttle body, freeflow inlet manifold etc.

Far more power to be had from a freeflow de-catted exhaust ;)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 1:55pm

chers Guys. I am thinking of making myself a Cat bypass pipe ! ' well two ' I believe it is a pannel filter scorp man, will it make any differance if its a cone one !

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 3:34pm

hi there

in theory, a cone would be better as you could direct more cold air at it. in reality though, they're really better for turbo cars. if you use a cone, you need one of these wee ones as well for the breather pipe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/scorpio_man/scorpio%20bits/cylindricalbreatherlarge.jpg

the panel filter wouldn't give the noise facter, i don't think. :-/

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by craig on Apr 16^th, 2007, 4:15pm

can't comment on the panel filter for the Scorpio regarding noise,but on mine,yes it has made a difference to the noise,nothing too drastic but yes you can tell the difference...

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 4:17pm

hi craig

have i read you correctly, there is more induction roar with the panel filter?

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by craig on Apr 16^th, 2007, 5:32pm

Andrew
yep for sure,i have the panel filter on mine (bought it for £39.99),and yes there is a definate change in engine roar on mine....
like i have said though,cant comment on the 4/6 cylinder

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 5:44pm

thanks for clearing that up craig. :)

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by the_boogeyman on Apr 16^th, 2007, 8:52pm

so we know what type to use, BUT WHAT SIZE DO WE USE ? and is it the same as any other ford model ?

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 9:11pm

scorpio air filters. (http://www.jetex.co.uk/website/filter_chooser.php?mak=Ford&id=1&mod=Scorpio)

hth

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 16^th, 2007, 11:29pm

so , would one assume the ones on the site you mentioned hth are of equal or better standard to the K'n' N ones ? thanks you guys for the input 8)

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 17^th, 2007, 8:18am

hi there

i can only talk about the ones i have, which are of a high quality. :)

if you do change for panel filter, make sure you renew the breather sponge at the back of the housing. you can make one out of a kitchen scubber pad.

hth

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 17^th, 2007, 8:41am

cheers heath, I would not change mine from a cone to pannel filter . From the site you put up , it looks to me like my filter would be a pannel one as standard ! I would also hope the seller would supply a breather sponge should One require one , or is this me expecting to much from suppliers ? I need to get my filter out 'n' view it and potentially return to this thread ! top man hth. I should immagine the breather sponge sinario will become considerably clearer once one has had an eyefull of the parts in quesion ! ;) ;)

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 18^th, 2007, 12:09am

hth, your my HERO . the breather sponge looked like it had never been changed ! now I have a scouring filter in it's place. my air filter looks new so I will give it a month and try get a great deal on a K'n'N ! top Banana ;D ;D ps I pulled off the green bit of the pad hope this was correct .

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 18^th, 2007, 8:13am

hi dan

we normally use the green plastic bit! ;D the one i was talking about is about 6cmx3cm and about 1cm thick. doesn't really matter, though as it's just there to catch oil vapour.

just keep an eye on it. if it really oilly quickly, then change it for the more plasticy one as it will 'breath' better, i think.

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 18^th, 2007, 11:23am

will do , cheers . 8)

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 22^nd, 2007, 4:34pm

hi there

fast ford magazine has done some tests on filters this month.

performance panel filters give about 3bhp.

cone/induction filters give about 10bhp.

hth

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by taliban on Apr 23^rd, 2007, 1:12pm

they will also make it run slightly leaner.......unless the electric fuelling will self adjust?

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by Kjetil S on Apr 23^rd, 2007, 1:39pm

As long as the MAF is working, it should self adjust.

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 23^rd, 2007, 10:58pm

after scorpio man put up the fine post regarding the power increase of cone induction filters. I have been considering Making the change ! would this affect my insurance ? ::) Would it be costly to do ?

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 24^th, 2007, 8:22am

hi there

you should let your insurance know of any changes to your car. filters, wheels, radio, spoiler, etc.

re the cost of the filters. i think i paid about £55 +delivery for the 2 filters.

hth

Title: Re: performance air filters ?
Post by dan_the_man on Apr 25^th, 2007, 3:05pm

I could go with the 55 bux plus p'n'p... my cheeky insurance company want another 45 quid pr year though :'( ! the same as I have just paid to stick some sweet Wheelz on ! ;D