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Title: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:37pm http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FUEL-SAVER-KIT-Ford-Maverick-Explorer-Granada-Scorpio_W0QQitemZ110136525143QQihZ001QQcategoryZ122139QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem my wife is using my scorpio far more than i am and as a poor student she is complaining that the car is very uneconomical....to the extent that i may have to get rid(the car,not the wife)has anyone ever tried this product?? |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by TiberiuS on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:45pm Hey mate, I wouldn't go there. The average car management system is quite finely tuned, IAT is nessecary to control ignition timing and other things, I wouldn't do it on my car to be honest. Messing with the IAT which the ECU so carefully measures spells trouble to me, I know air temp and density has an effect on engine power but I really don't think fooling it with what is just a packaged resistor is a good idea. Best way to get good MPG is to keep it serviced, make sure lambda sensors etc are in good order. Just my £0.02. Regards, Bruce :). |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by petehull on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:45pm The best way to improve economy is to convert to LPG. the initial outlay is expensive, I paid £2000 but now I have a fortnightly fuel bill of £18 - £22 as opposed to £47 before the conversion. car runs a lot smoother as well.... Hull to Bristol £18.... not slowly either... Products such as what you highlight are mostly of the gimmick type, if they worked everyone would be using them. hth Pete |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:52pm Thanks folks,i thought perhaps everybody WAS using them.I just thought i'd ask......looks bleak for the scorpio im afraid.I just dont have the money to convert it as the wife is at university so only one wage coming in :(.I need to get it mot'd as it is up in august and sell it on i think.I wanted one of these for years too. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by petehull on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:56pm Always look on the bright side of life.... August isn't here yet... Keep smiling ;) Pete |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by sector-9 on Jun 17th, 2007, 11:57pm If you've got the space, mothball it and run around in a 1.1 Fiesta - that'll also make you appreciate it so much more when you do start using it again! Darren |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by TiberiuS on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:07am I know messing with the intake air temp on the XJ can cause power loss and misfire issues, I'd imagine using it on the Scorpio (at least the 24v) would risk the same thing. Manufacturers put £millions into developing management systems, I think if there was a fix that improved both power and economy, we'd have known about it by now :). If you think it might make a difference then give it a go, just my opinion that it might cause bigger issues than the extra MPG gives you :-/ What sort of MPG are you getting? |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:09am that would be ideal but at this time in my life i have no spare cash to just mothball it and get a wee runabout unfortunately.I love the car and if i could get a hold of a decent one with lpg i would snap it up,particularly an estate version,but i dont think they would be in my price range. |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:10am Well I'm biased.. ditch the wife keep the Scorpio ;D |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:15am Tiberius,the wife says she is getting around 20-25 to the gallon which i think is ok but she thinks its awful as we are on a tight budget due to me becoming self employed and her studying.I have tried to tell her that the better the fuel economy the lesser the car :o |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:16am on 06/18/07 at 00:10:43, Highlander wrote:
;D ;D ;D dont think i havent considered it :o |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:22am Is it the 24v? mpg seems ok, mainly town driving or open roads? |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:33am its a 16v 2 litre ultima i have mate. |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by TiberiuS on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:36am Crikey. But then I was lucky to get 24 urban out of my 2.3, used to average about 20-22 urban, 24-26 motorways, 27 if I was lucky and on cruise...didn't drive it hard either. People say you get the same MPG out of the V6 Scorps, probably true. I get better mileage (25-30) out of the 4.0, loony. Maybe lambda sensors or something? I've often thought this myself since I sold mine, maybe my 2.3 needed new sensors :-/ |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:43am I can get 30 plus with a 24v sitting on the motorway (at 60, not at 80) I average 25 all types of driving. probably for around town you are doing ok |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by mr._floppy on Jun 18th, 2007, 12:23pm You can't make a Bacon Roll without killing a pig :'( ( or something like that ) Big luxury cars are fundamentally uneconomical , you gotta make a choice . Drive a wasteful Scorpio and get lotsa sex from admiring females ( I'm still waiting BTW ) Or, drive a frugal Ka and be laughed at by cyclists |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by TiberiuS on Jun 18th, 2007, 3:02pm Steady on now Mr Floppy :o Problem with driving a Fiesta is that nobody has any respect and you get carved up like the Sunday roast...but being cramped in one all day in traffic does make you respect a better car :( The only 'admiring glances' I ever get are bemused ones from senior citizens who either think you've just nicked it or stare at you in horror as they struggle to maneuver their Metro past almost as if it was a Sherman tank ::). Or the chavs who stare gormlessly wondering why the hell a young chap is driving around in an old man's car :-/ But hey, I'm the one with a car that costs less to insure than an Astra SRi and could leave any chavmobile choking in its exhaust trails should I choose ;D In short, no it isn't cheap to run but pays for it in other ways, let it go and you'll regret it :). You'll get b****r all if you sell it, will cost you more than you'll get for the Scorp just to get a £299 banger with tax/MOT....that's a few tanks of fuel :) |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by sector-9 on Jun 18th, 2007, 6:41pm Just a thought; make sure your tyre pressures are high enough - mid thirties is a good starting point - check none of the brakes are sticking, and get an OBD scan done just to make sure the engine management doesn't have any (recorded) faults... Darren |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 18th, 2007, 11:53pm obd scan has been done and showed no obvious faults...however the remark about the brakes has got me thinking,also there is a drone from the passenger side when the car goes over 30mph(ish)i was thinking a bearing or something maybe needing replaced. |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by mindofitsown on Jun 21st, 2007, 1:55pm I have a 2.0L Ultima and get an average of 31mpg around town and 35+ on motorway. It used to be worse until I read on this site about cleaning the MAF sensor....wow, what a difference! I pressume you have tried this? |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by harry.m1byt on Jun 21st, 2007, 8:54pm on 06/17/07 at 23:37:52, Comfortzone wrote:
They are snake oil - don't go there. |
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Title: Re: Anyone tried this out?? Post by Comfortzone on Jun 21st, 2007, 10:28pm on 06/21/07 at 13:55:02, mindofitsown wrote:
no i havent tried anything actually.....i will now though.Thanks |
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