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(Message started by: Wadman on Jul 9^th, 2007, 5:21pm)

Title: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 9^th, 2007, 5:21pm

My car was given a full inspection by the RAC. In their report they recommend the bushes (triangular-shaped)in the rear suspension be replaced as they have 'collapsed'. One Ford garage want to replace the whole suspension for £400 each side. I am also told the old bushes can be 'pushed out' and new ones inserted. Can anyone tell me the Ford part number of the bushes and of any website which has illustrations of the rear suspension please.
Regards Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by bizzay1 on Jul 9^th, 2007, 5:37pm

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/suspensionman.htm

this site has a number of diagrams which may help, can't help with a part number I'm afraid though

hth

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 9^th, 2007, 8:20pm

Thanks, a big help.
Just to confirm, the bushes I'm looking for are "Rear Suspension Insulator", or am I wrong?
Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Highlander on Jul 9^th, 2007, 8:43pm

First two pics on this page give an exploded view of the rear suspension, not sure which bushes you mean

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/suspension.htm

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 10^th, 2007, 1:23pm

I am in contact with the RC engineer who carried out the inspection. Like you, I am having problems identifying the item. However, the RAC engineer states the bushes are "rear suspension lower front outer bushes" sometimes called "the A-frame bushes". Are you any wiser, if so, which part number of the schemics on the website are the bushes in question.
Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by petehull on Jul 10^th, 2007, 3:16pm

;D

If you go to a FMD and give them your registration no or vin they should be able to identify the parts fitted to your car and supply part no's, at the same time they can give price and availability.... I think it is item 2 on the rear suspention diagram abive... You don't however have to order the parts...

hth

Pete

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by mr._floppy on Jul 10^th, 2007, 5:00pm

In all seriousness I would'nt waste large wads of cash on summat that might not be needed.

It's an RAC inspection ( notoriously nitpicky and unrealistic ) not a MOT.

This bush, if it's failed, I'm sure will be picked up by the MOT tester.

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by TiberiuS on Jul 10^th, 2007, 8:19pm

[] I had AA inspections done on two Jags a couple of years back. Not my idea, was done by a relative who did it in good faith. Both were picked to pieces, one being a mint B reg (20 years old so could be excused for not being perfect). The inspections are great so long as you don't read too much into them, most inspectors will have a negative bias as soon as they look at the age of the car. When I bought the Scorpio I went by intuition, ok it had a few things wrong but I didn't do badly, same with the Sport...just looked it and the paperwork over, checked the fluids and gave it a drive. It's an old car, it's not going to be perfect :).

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Highlander on Jul 10^th, 2007, 9:52pm

From your description i'd say you are looking at either bush no.2 or no.6 on the left side of this page

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/rearsuspension96on.gif

Not too difficult to swap them over

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 10^th, 2007, 11:19pm

Appreciate all the help. The main idea in regard to the RAC inspection was to get an independent evaluation on a car that's done less than 34,000 miles. It's very comfortable car for me and the cost of a similar replacement is going to be £15/20K, an amount I cannot afford. Secondly, two garages have quoted £900 and £30 plus labour, on a repair to bushes they are not quite sure on. The first cost was to replace BOTH rear suspensions. I know the reaction is to take the 30 quid one, but are they talking about the right part.
Puzzled!

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by jonnycab on Jul 11^th, 2007, 1:02am

Are there any nasty noises coming from the rear when going over bumps or around corners etc...if not then I'd agree with what mr._floppy said....wait for an MOT before you decide to spend the cash, or book it in now for an early MOT & see what they say ;)

Seeing as it's done less than 34K, then I wouldn't think a rear bush would fail at such a low mileage :)

P.S....34K is a very low mileage for a Scorpio...are you sure it's genuine ? :)

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Highlander on Jul 11^th, 2007, 7:51am

Yep I'd take it somewhere for an MOT (without mentioning the bushes) you might find it passes ;)

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by petehull on Jul 11^th, 2007, 8:57am

I have the problem (well not so much of a problem really) that the back end of my car is very low, I have suspected the rear bushes and spoke to the mot centre about it (pre MOT), he did agree that it appears low but said there was nothing showing concern with regards to the rear suspention, he added that it could be that there has been some strain on the springs and that they could be a little soft. He has been doing my MOT's for years now and I have every trust in his capability as an examiner.

I tend to agree that if you put it in for mot without saying anything you may be surprised... however like me I wouldn't dismiss a possible cure alltogether for the future. So long as the car handles ok.

Pete

Just as an afterthought, as I have said before I tow an 18foot caravan with no problems except that it catches on humps etc occasionally.... :-/

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 11^th, 2007, 9:30am

The car passed an MOT AFTER the RAC inspection. It appears the bush is sitting on a 'pan' and whilst the car might occaisionally try to steer from the rear end, unless the bush totally disintergrates, it will pass an MOT. I am trying to deal with the 'repairs' the RAC felt were important, but all in one go, I don't want to go back again for repairs in 6months.
Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Highlander on Jul 11^th, 2007, 10:28am

on 07/11/07 at 09:30:13, Wadman wrote:

The car passed an MOT AFTER the RAC inspection

Whats the problem then? :)

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by mr._floppy on Jul 11^th, 2007, 2:34pm

If the rear tyres are wearing evenly, and the wheels look OK looking from the rear of the car ( i.e. no huge amounts of Negative camber ) and there are no moans, squeals or clunks over rough ground then I would tend to leave it alone till more definite signs of a rear end problem become evident

34K miles ! :o

Lucky chap,

are there any lower mileage ones out there ?

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Jul 11^th, 2007, 10:51pm

The problem is, the RAC 'highlighted' this before any other 'defect', so I take it seriously. They may be nitpicky but they are not a garage trying to drum up business, so why emphasise it. I think it's time to draw a close on the matter.
Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by Wadman on Feb 13^th, 2008, 2:10pm

With the advent of new technology in headlights, can my lights on my 1998 Ultima be similarly improved. I know the whole headlamp unit is expensive, I've just had to replace a hit-and-run incident, but I wondered about a simple bulb replacement.
Anybody??
Wadman

Title: Re: Rear suspension
Post by peteHull on Feb 15^th, 2008, 2:27am

HID conversion?

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1202938745

Pete