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(Message started by: dan_the_man on Jan 10th, 2008, 12:03am)

Title: NEW MAF ?
Post by dan_the_man on Jan 10th, 2008, 12:03am
howdy folks, a little advice please. my old cossie has done 180,000 miles and still drives great. I have noticed though it takes about a second and a half to engage  D or R. also at low and moderate speeds the clutch seems to slip and she Rev's, and clunks into gear. the MAF has been cleaned 3 times with little or no improvement.
I have done a little reading on the site and I would guess this is my problem .
I am sure P0174     Bank 2 Fuel System too Lean (V6 models only)
and   P0175     Bank 2 Fuel System too Rich (V6 models only) both came up .

what could I expect to pay for a MAF ?

The gearbox oil is fine.

Many thanks, Dan.


 






Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 10th, 2008, 8:51am
from memory for a 24v about £275 for new from ford, bosch were doing some recons at about £150 last time I checked.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by Simmo on Jan 10th, 2008, 9:40am
Dan, could you not borrow one and swap it over before going down the replacement route?, particularly at that price !.  ;) Just found THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-AIRFLOW-METER-MASS-METER-MAF-SENSOR-93BB12B579BA_W0QQitemZ130166092100QQihZ003QQcategoryZ21654QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118) on E-Bay but their details are on the site. The code number shown may not relate to the Cosworth MAF but worth a call I would suggest.  ;)

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 10th, 2008, 12:54pm
hi there

you need to make sure  it's for the 24v as it's bigger and bolts on. the 16v version uses clips.

hth

btw, the ebay one looks to be for a 16v engine.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by martin_rowe on Jan 10th, 2008, 1:24pm
unfortunatly, as with most things on a 24v, they asre 1 offs.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by Simmo on Jan 10th, 2008, 1:31pm

on 01/10/08 at 12:54:05, scorpio_man wrote:
hi there

you need to make sure  it's for the 24v as it's bigger and bolts on. the 16v version uses clips.

hth

btw, the ebay one looks to be for a 16v engine.

That would seem to be the case Andrew as that number is on one that I have.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by dan_the_man on Jan 10th, 2008, 6:24pm
many thanks Guys, does anyone know what the FINIS CODE is for the 24v MAF ?

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by jonnycab on Jan 11th, 2008, 1:54am
Are you sure it's the MAF that is causing the problem ?

The fault codes could indicate a faulty fuel pressure regulator, & be totally unrelated to the autobox problem that you have  :)

Could be the autobox solenoid is faulty ?  :-/

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by dan_the_man on Jan 11th, 2008, 4:43pm
I am not sure. Jc you could be bang on ! I just thought I would try the MAF . don't know why. ???

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by pedropedro on Jan 11th, 2008, 7:09pm
its fairly easy to check the MAF assuming you have the obd vehicle explorer software from alex pepper..worth getting

at idle you should expect to see around .6-.8 volts rising up to around 2 volts at 2000 rpm approx

then it takes the guesswork out it...just a thought...john

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 11th, 2008, 9:04pm
If you pull the MAF, it should go into limp-home mode and revert to default values, if that doesn't improve/change the shifting problem, you can be pretty sure the MAF isn't the cause.

Exactly the symptoms I used to get with my autobox, 180k is a lot if it's on the original one :-/

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by dan_the_man on Jan 12th, 2008, 5:23pm
CHEERS AGAIN FOLKS, I unplugged the MAF , took her for a spin and the change was noticably more 'clunky'. when I plugged it back in and did the same run again it felt more smooth than before !

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 12th, 2008, 7:51pm
hi dan

the codes i got from your car at the last harewood housee meeting were...

p051
p1131
p1132

did you get another scan done?

regards

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by peteHull on Jan 13th, 2008, 9:23am

on 01/10/08 at 18:24:24, dan_the_man wrote:
many thanks Guys, does anyone know what the FINIS CODE is for the 24v MAF ?


Hi Dan

just fond this on ebay Item No 320206637992
Don't know if it's any good to you....

Pete


Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by Dave2302 on Jan 13th, 2008, 3:22pm
Hi  :)

If you get a 16v MAF or a 2.0 Mondeo you will find you can undo the tamper proof torx screws and fit it into the housing of the cossie one.  Its the guts bit that goes wrong not the housing, I beleive this applies to any of the Ford MAF's with the same plug / bolt pattern.  

Did this to mine, runs and drives lovely and got rid of a few gremlins.

Regards Dave.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by Tompion on Jan 13th, 2008, 3:34pm
I have a MAF off a 2.9 but it's a different plug to the one on my 2.3 - don't know if the plug varied over the years.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by dan_the_man on Jan 16th, 2008, 2:33pm
Cheers filks. I have and are having some comp dramaz ! I have had another scan done, Lost the codes. will get another tomorrow. I'll let you know how I go. CHEERS.

Title: Re: NEW MAF ?
Post by Highlander on Jan 16th, 2008, 5:27pm

on 01/13/08 at 15:34:40, Tompion wrote:
I have a MAF off a 2.9 but it's a different plug to the one on my 2.3 - don't know if the plug varied over the years.


Different MAF's they are not interchangeable



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